The Milk Industry from a Doctor's point of view
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2. Thanny commented 10 years ago
This guy clearly doesn't understand evolution. Several human populations (in Africa and Europe) with domesticated cattle reproduced the same phenomenon - genes preserving the production of lactase into adulthood spread like wildfire, because those who were able to drink milk as adults had a gigantic reproductive advantage.
Those who didn't have the genes didn't do just fine at all - they got left behind. From the population in northern Europe, the genes spread over much of the rest of the continent (in general, the further from Sweden, the less likely you are to remain lactose tolerant).
Contrary to what this fact-challenged person claims, the people in these populations who couldn't drink milk as adults didn't do just fine at all - they were utterly out-competed, to the point where lactose tolerance in some areas approaches fixation (i.e. lactose intolerance almost completely died out).
Those who didn't have the genes didn't do just fine at all - they got left behind. From the population in northern Europe, the genes spread over much of the rest of the continent (in general, the further from Sweden, the less likely you are to remain lactose tolerant).
Contrary to what this fact-challenged person claims, the people in these populations who couldn't drink milk as adults didn't do just fine at all - they were utterly out-competed, to the point where lactose tolerance in some areas approaches fixation (i.e. lactose intolerance almost completely died out).
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3. Dmitry commented 10 years ago
All those studies that he's talking about are irrelevant since none of them were conducted using natural raw milk, but rather factory processed milk. Besides, study results depend more on who conducted it and who sponsored it then on actual facts. If you can get raw milk and drink it for a couple of months, you'll notice an improvement in your health and in the way you feel, that to me carries more weight then an opinion of a doctor who probably doesn't even know what real milk tastes like.
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4. bytebuster commented 10 years ago
The milk which is good for human is the raw milk and it should be drunk in max 2 or 3 hours time. If it stays longer than that, then it is not affective anymore and the milk of bigger animals like cow or camel should be taken as a meal or in small amounts because it is to fat. It is made for to let calves grow faster to a cow. Nobody can dispute that cow’s milk is an excellent food source for calves. Weighing around 100pounds=45KG at birth, a calf typically gains approximately eight times its weight by the time it is weaned. But unlike humans, once calves are weaned, they never drink milk again. And the same applies to every mammalian species on this planet. Thus the cow milk is not really ment for human consumption. The other thing is this: many scientific studies have shown an assortment of detrimental health effects directly linked to milk consumption. And the most surprising link is that not only do we barely absorb the calcium in cowâ??s milk (especially if pasteurized), but to make matters worse, it actually increases calcium loss from the bones. What an irony this is! Here is how it happens. Like all animal protein, milk acidifies the body pH which in turn triggers a biological correction. You see, calcium is an excellent acid neutralizer and the biggest storage of calcium in the body is-you guessed it; in the bones. So the very same calcium that our bones need to stay strong is utilized to neutralize the acidifying effect of milk. Once calcium is pulled out of the bones, it leaves the body via the urine, so that the surprising net result after this is an actual calcium deficit.
This is why you should watch the amount of milk you drink.
This is why you should watch the amount of milk you drink.
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5. dafil commented 10 years ago
@ 2
http://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Laktoseintoleranz
At the end you have a table with different people and their level of intolerance.
75 % (!!!!!) of the worlds population suffer from lactose intolerance.
Symptoms: Depression, diarrhea, chronic fatigue, vertigo, chronic insomnia etc etc
Seems like the right thing to drink right?
Lactose intolerance died out? Ah, yes. Only 75 % of us have it. Very smart point.
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So tell us Dmitry have you conducted a study by yourself or where did u get this information from?
Why dont we all drink raw milk? Is it maybe impossible to distribute fresh raw milk to a large mass of people? Does it maybe have to be treated to make sure that when we buy it in a supermarket it is still drinkable? Not everyone has a neighbour with a cow, Dmitry.
So who do you think may be a competitor to the milk industry? Who would finance studies to harm the milk industry? Is there something that comes to your mind? Coca cola? Pepsi? Very unlikely since it isnt their market and its gonna be hard to convince people to drink their products instead of milk.
Is it maybe that the milk industry lied to us for profit like any other multi billion dollar industry?
Why listen to a doctor? better make assumptions without backing them, right?
http://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Laktoseintoleranz
At the end you have a table with different people and their level of intolerance.
75 % (!!!!!) of the worlds population suffer from lactose intolerance.
Symptoms: Depression, diarrhea, chronic fatigue, vertigo, chronic insomnia etc etc
Seems like the right thing to drink right?
Lactose intolerance died out? Ah, yes. Only 75 % of us have it. Very smart point.
@ 3
So tell us Dmitry have you conducted a study by yourself or where did u get this information from?
Why dont we all drink raw milk? Is it maybe impossible to distribute fresh raw milk to a large mass of people? Does it maybe have to be treated to make sure that when we buy it in a supermarket it is still drinkable? Not everyone has a neighbour with a cow, Dmitry.
So who do you think may be a competitor to the milk industry? Who would finance studies to harm the milk industry? Is there something that comes to your mind? Coca cola? Pepsi? Very unlikely since it isnt their market and its gonna be hard to convince people to drink their products instead of milk.
Is it maybe that the milk industry lied to us for profit like any other multi billion dollar industry?
Why listen to a doctor? better make assumptions without backing them, right?
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6. loadrunner commented 10 years ago
It is almost the same as the "Well known hamburger restaurants" advertises having hamburgers containing pure meat, fresh tomato and lettuce. One a week is not even a problem. It is very bad to eat a lot of them them every day.
Some people think it is extremely healthy to drink milk and drink too much. Grapes and cherries are also good to eat, but eating a kilogram of them every day makes you very sick.
btw, raw milk straight from a cow is unedible for 99,9% of humans, it contains bacteria making kids and elderly people very sick.
Some people think it is extremely healthy to drink milk and drink too much. Grapes and cherries are also good to eat, but eating a kilogram of them every day makes you very sick.
btw, raw milk straight from a cow is unedible for 99,9% of humans, it contains bacteria making kids and elderly people very sick.
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7. LaoMa commented 10 years ago
#5: "Lactose intolerance died out? Ah, yes. Only 75 % of us have it. Very smart point."
In Northern Europe, only 5% of the people are lactose intolerant. Historically, the people who didn't crap their pants each time they had milk, also didn't die of starvation during winters...
In Northern Europe, only 5% of the people are lactose intolerant. Historically, the people who didn't crap their pants each time they had milk, also didn't die of starvation during winters...
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8. Dmitry commented 10 years ago
#3 I drink real milk, from real cows and goats, so arguing with you about the benefits of milk or the veracity of studies on milk is like arguing with a blind man who is convinced that the sky is green. And as touching your second point, do you know how many billions of profit are raked in every year by the "HEALTH" industry (oh the irony!), the pharmaceutical, the health insurance etc. People kill each other every day for a lot less then that, so is it really a stretch to think that maybe us being healthy is not in everybody's best interest? Can you imagine what would happen to the US economy if everyone cancelled their health insurance, stopped taking medications, stopped going to doctors and hospitals?
#6 "btw, raw milk straight from a cow is unedible for 99,9% of humans, it contains bacteria making kids and elderly people very sick." ???
What?! So 99.9% of Amish are very sick? Is that why they live longer and have less disease?
#6 "btw, raw milk straight from a cow is unedible for 99,9% of humans, it contains bacteria making kids and elderly people very sick." ???
What?! So 99.9% of Amish are very sick? Is that why they live longer and have less disease?
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9. krillemaster commented 10 years ago
As I grew older (25 now) I started to become mildly lactos intolerant :/ but since I stopped drinking milk my body feels better than ever (even better than before I started getting intolerant)
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11. sunnydaze4me commented 10 years ago
To me the problem with raw milk is that cows and goats both lie down in their own
feces and urine and that contaminates the milk if proper cleaning of the teats is not done
before milking.
feces and urine and that contaminates the milk if proper cleaning of the teats is not done
before milking.
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14. Chrythes commented 10 years ago
#2 That is not the point, and I am quite sure the guy in the video know this bit of information. The point that he makes is that we are over consuming milk. In the case you present, milk was mostly used in times of famine and shortage of food. It wasn't necessarily consumed daily, and especially not in the quantities we consume it these days.
+16 1. MindTrick commented 10 years ago