I will likely get downvoted into oblivion for this, but here it goes. Not all research animals are mistreated, and not all researchers are heartless mechanical monsters. In fact most lab beagles are treated very well. They are sweet dogs, and the researches give them affection like they would their own pets. I know this doesn't fit the idea that groups like "Beagle Freedom" wish to promote, but it's the truth. Plenty of labs do not want to release their animals to groups like Beagle Freedom because of the false information these groups spread. I think if they toned down the rhetoric they might be able to rescue a lot more animals.

Oh and Beagles are awesome. I've had many. In fact I had a former lab beagle when I was a kid. Proctor and Gamble use/used Beagles to test beauty products. A litter of puppies had occurred by accident, and a whole litter of adorable beagle puppies were given to a worker to incinerate. This was the 80's before there was so much more oversight in animal testing. The worker, being human..was not able to toss 8 puppies into the fire. Our family got one of them, and named him Pokey. Awesome dog who lived to be 13.

The irony is that they were transported while being inside a cage.

#1 I don't know anything about animal treatment in labs. But i doubt any experiment lab would allow their subjects to roam free. So, it is a pretty sad thing even if they allowed to be inside a room or two. But again, there are worse animal treatments specially the ones we grow for food. For that reason, i won't side with neither side.

#2 Definitely get your point with the being caged all the time. From the looks of the beagles, they appear to be fit and healthy. If they are caged all the time I wonder how they prevent weight gain, and muscle atrophy? It doesn't add up, but I'm not lab scientist so I am not sure. All I know is when she said they've be "deprived of an identity", I rolled my eyes. As if a they care what you call them so long as you bring the grub and scratches.

All tails up

I'm sorry... these are dogs... well treated or not.
There are PEOPLE dying every day due to war, ignorance and stupidity!!!

#7 I don't understand your point. People are treated badly, yes. And that makes the maltreatment of other creatures ok... how exactly...?

Shameful to use these for research. Them's good eatin'.

#4 and #6 i totally agree...

#1
sorry, but even tho you made a long post that was well written, the amount of hypocrisy and double morals that are sifting through your words, makes me wanna give you a "Wake up" punch in the face. Do you really think these dogs are played with, loved and taken care of as a good "owner" SHOULD do? Fuck me if you think so, that must be some new level of stupidity right there...

Those dogs sure look to be fat and happy with all four legs working and their noses and eyes
seemingly in good working order. Their coats look full and healthy too.
How can that be if they are so mistreated?

#11
I had a girl in my class back in school. She looked fine. Her skin was intact, and she wasn't bleeding from her face, nor had any bruises or such. Nothing wrong with her sight or ears either. But she was shy and didn't speak much. Truth was that she was sexually abused when she was a kid. But how can that be, i mean she looked alright on the outside, so she must have been in "working order"?
If you're thinking "oh come on, thats not the same", i ask you back, isn't it? To me, it's the exact same.

#12 Well., maybe like your story about the girl in your school who was abused when she was a kid these dogs might have
been treated bad as pups, but they seem to have come through it intact, and that is a good thing.

#13 Yea, by all means, they seem physically fine, which of course is a good thing. And they seem to have been taken in by people who genuinely care about them. I'm not gonna proclaim myself to be the dog whisperer, but i've met a lot of dogs in my life, i love dogs (animals in general), but most dogs that i've met are open to other humans, happy to see them. The dogs in this video seem unsure, afraid and sceptical. Dog's don't become like that with no reason. I picture it this way, the dogs have had no idea what the humans were gonna do with them up til now, thus they are acting nervous and scared. Like the one hiding in a bush, the one eating while keeping as good distance as possible, the one who was stuck all the way back in his cage. All of those indicates to me that they did not trust humans to begin with. And that trust comes naturally to most dogs when kept as pets and treated as they should.

#11 These look like happy animals which have been well-treated by humans...? 00:20

15 They look like dogs that do not know where they are and feel safe in the dog pens they are used to.
Dogs adapt to changing situations.

15 They look like dogs that do not know where they are and feel safe in the dog pens they are used to.
Dogs adapt to changing situations.

Its true, not all research dogs are kept in cages and treated like machines.. I have a friend who works at a certain multinational company which makes dog food.. For example the dogs there are allowed to go out an play each day and each week some of the dogs are taken around the office to be petted by office staff, some of which come down daily on their lunch breaks to pet the dogs. At the end of their careers many dogs are then adopted by company staff who give them a home the same as any other dog... Just saying..

#18 That's good to hear. However, the RSPCA (American ASPCA) exists because not all animals are well-treated. Do you think that they should be disbanded because *most* animals are well-treated?
A few companies looking after their animals well (and I still say that *no* caged animal is being cared for well) is no reason to accept the disgraceful treatment by those companies that don't.

#8, #10...you missed my point. I chose my verbiage carefully.

"Not all research animals are mistreated, and not all researchers are heartless mechanical monsters."

Please read it again. Maybe a few times until you understand the concept of absolutes, which my statements were not. I object to all lab testing being categorized as cruel. I would equally object to any assertion that all lab testing was lollipops and rainbows. I was addressing the ineffectiveness of radicalism that these "Beagle Freedom" people seem to possess. It's counter productive to the cause which they care so deeply about. That was my point.