Last Week Tonight with John Oliver: Prison
America's prisons are broken. Just ask John Oliver and several puppets.
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3. BloodBeast commented 10 years ago
Puts a new slant on "the land of the free".
And it takes a Brit to hold up the mirror? A very funny guy making a very serious point in an engaging way, and I doubt that it will make a tap of difference. The people who vote for these policies don't watch programmes like his; it hurts their brains too much.
The "three strikes and you're out" (which he doesn't mention) is a bizarre practice - I don't know if what I see on TV is really how it works, but if the third strike is for something incredibly minor and the person gets a long stretch...? That can't be right, surely? But if it is, no doubt it contributes.
As I commented once before, Top Gear's Clarkson was told by a US cop "We have laws; we don't need common sense." How very true. And this is how you end up...
And it takes a Brit to hold up the mirror? A very funny guy making a very serious point in an engaging way, and I doubt that it will make a tap of difference. The people who vote for these policies don't watch programmes like his; it hurts their brains too much.
The "three strikes and you're out" (which he doesn't mention) is a bizarre practice - I don't know if what I see on TV is really how it works, but if the third strike is for something incredibly minor and the person gets a long stretch...? That can't be right, surely? But if it is, no doubt it contributes.
As I commented once before, Top Gear's Clarkson was told by a US cop "We have laws; we don't need common sense." How very true. And this is how you end up...
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4. LaoMa commented 10 years ago
Here in Finland, only very dangerous people are put to real prison. Most of the convicts reside in an open prison, where they are given the possibility to educate themselves and even have minimum salary jobs. even more, the prisoners are allowed to have short vacations, when they can send time outside the facility. Also, one's criminal record is your personal secret, by law, so having one doesn't stop you from getting a job. Of course there are some exceptions, like jobs where you work with children, where you have to provide your criminal record when applying.
In the US 50% of the released inmates end up back in prison. In Finland the same number is 30%, while in Norway, where the justice system is even more forgiving, only 20% of the ex-convicts go back. I'm just wondering, when are the Americans going to admit that the system has failed, and rethink the strategy...
In the US 50% of the released inmates end up back in prison. In Finland the same number is 30%, while in Norway, where the justice system is even more forgiving, only 20% of the ex-convicts go back. I'm just wondering, when are the Americans going to admit that the system has failed, and rethink the strategy...
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5. fjwjr commented 10 years ago
When did it become popular to refer to something as 'broken' that is not mechanical, have moving parts or electrical components? To call something 'broken' just because you don't like it?
I think everyone who uses that word in that way should have the crap slapped out of them just like everyone who says the something is just like " (fill in the blank) on steroids".
I think everyone who uses that word in that way should have the crap slapped out of them just like everyone who says the something is just like " (fill in the blank) on steroids".
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6. Sizzlik (admin) commented 10 years ago
#5 English isnt my first language but isnt "broken" just for anything that doesnt work (anymore)? A relationship for example..you break up..but its nothing physical..or software code with a bug...systems can break or be broken i would say..but thats nitpicking on steroids =)
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7. blue_alien commented 10 years ago
#5 Imagine for a second that every part of the prison system is represented by a mechanical part of an internal combustion engine. The police is the valves that let the fuel in, the fuel itself are the prisoners, the judges are the spark plugs and so on, I think you'll get the point. Now to complete the analogy answer this question: What do normal, non-mechanically enlightened people say when an engine starts to put too much fuel through the system? Don't they say the engine is broken? I hope that you don't think that someone using rhetorical questions should have the crap slapped out of them too. Ouch for me!
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8. BangkokJarek commented 10 years ago
Corporations. If you don't invest in them you're screwed by them.
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9. TheGodDamnGambit commented 10 years ago
Google "Norwegian Prison System". yeah..
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10. SpanneurRouge commented 10 years ago
#4 in Finland, serious crime is mosquitoes and a hirvi messing the washing line. Finnish men are docile and happy to drink themselves to death by 59.
Drugs, by the way are a cancer on society. it is how China was held back. China now has the death penalty for drug trafficking. Perhaps they know something?
Drugs, by the way are a cancer on society. it is how China was held back. China now has the death penalty for drug trafficking. Perhaps they know something?
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11. JohnMichael commented 10 years ago
As a Norwegian: I'm afraid of loosing my job due to doing something illegal. I'm sure as shit not afraid of going to jail..
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12. fjwjr commented 10 years ago
#6 and #7 A system as a whole is never 'broken'. To use your example, a car engine is never 'broken'. One of the components may be, but the engine as a whole is not. The valves may be sticky or the spark plugs need replacing, but the whole engine isn't broken.
And that's the real problem. When people don't like the results of something (in whole or in part) they condemn the entire process without identifying what the source of the problem was.
Part of the problem here is that people confuse comedy with actual news.
And that's the real problem. When people don't like the results of something (in whole or in part) they condemn the entire process without identifying what the source of the problem was.
Part of the problem here is that people confuse comedy with actual news.
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14. loadrunner commented 10 years ago
Just stay out of prison...
-4 1. snotraddict commented 10 years ago
Good point and there should be strong controls regarding the prison system as a business and encouraging more "customers" vs. using it as a deterrent/punishment.