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Scientists try to cure cancer with HIV..and seem to succeed

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-7 1. irishgek commented 8 years ago

If this logic is correct .... what's next ...smoking cures aids ?

All joking aside , thank science they are finally close to ending the suffering of many who threw no fault of their own end up with this horrid sickness.
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-20 2. saturas commented 8 years ago

Well, this is clearly a nice thing to hear. BUT why they forgot to mention how to prevent peaople from getting cacer at all? Eat fruit and vegetables ONLY from your own garden. All the fruit and vegetables you can buy at any supermarket are litarely crippled with all the insecticides and similar chemical crap. So besides they have like 10% of vitamins they should, they have 0% of anti-cancer substances which are naturaly present at home-grown fruits and vegetables.
So the intention of US goverment (maybe it was one a senator) to deny ppl from having their own garden and force them to buy all stuff from corporates is now even more obvious. Pharmaceutical industry has some huge strings to control their puppets, in this case a politicians.
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+26 3. spynode commented 8 years ago

#2 oh it is far from being that easy. You absolutely cannot guarantee that someone will not ever get cancer just by eating self grown food. If you say that it is 100%, then you obviously are medically clueless.
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-16 4. Dmitry commented 8 years ago

As far as I know, the HIV virus has never been isolated, which means there is no conclusive proof that HIV virus either exists or causes AIDS. If it has been isolated very recently, that in itself should be much bigger news than the claims presented on this video. So sorry for bursting your bubble, but this presentation is a complete fraud, I cannot even conceive of what kind of sick, twisted mind it takes to create this diabolical scheme to make a few bucks by manipulating peoples emotions and giving them false hope when millions of people are dying a slow and painful death from this dreadful disease!
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+6 5. blackd commented 8 years ago

#4 go read wikipedia http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/HIV
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+4 6. spynode commented 8 years ago

#4 I wonder then if all the photos of HIV are also fakes made by conman scientists :D
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+5 7. Wittgenstein11 commented 8 years ago

fight fire with fire \m/
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+1 9. Zeusisgreat commented 8 years ago

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y3x-Uj4yAMY cancer has already been cured...
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-11 10. Dmitry commented 8 years ago

#5 wikipedia? Wikipedia is for kids, but I did look at that link you posted, nothing there except for regurgitation of the same old shit I got in school, no scientific proof whatsoever (surprise!), so why don't you find a real peer reviewed scientific article published by a real scientist where they describe how they were able to isolate the HIV, I guarantee you there isn't one.
#6 Those photos were not made by scientist, but by artists for "educational purposes" only, I wonder if you have ever seen an image from an electron microscope, they look nothing like those pictures you get in your textbook.
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+1 11. krillemaster commented 8 years ago

#2 and #4

I bet you guys think it's all a part of Illuminati's plan ;)
#tinfoilhatters
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0 12. ImprsdBySmartVid commented 8 years ago

#4, #10 (Dmitry): You never read scientific articles, do you?

A very simple research on google give back tons of answers about these publications, like http://www.cdc.gov/hiv/resources

The very first publications, in 1983/1984, may not be easy to find: the Web wasn't available at these old time.

But...
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Luc_Montagnier
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Robert_Gallo

... And en.wikipedia references some of the very first publications!
See there --> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Robert_Gallo#cite_note-10

So, according to you, the scientific community is wrong for thirty years, after thousands of expensive studies, after millions of deaths (by lack of knowledge) and millions of saved lives (by detection and by medication)

I'm very curious to read your unproven theories and the weird cures you propose.

Thousands are dead refusing to listen to doctors, of AIDS and opportunistic infections, no need of hit man to hide the very sad truth.
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+2 13. scottocs commented 8 years ago

T-cells, viruses. This all sounds very similar to resident evil.
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+2 14. Thanny commented 8 years ago

#4/#10

http://adsabs.harvard.edu/abs/1983Sci...220..868B
http://adsabs.harvard.edu/abs/1984Sci...224..497P
http://adsabs.harvard.edu/abs/1984Sci...224..500G
http://adsabs.harvard.edu/abs/1984Sci...224..503S
http://adsabs.harvard.edu/abs/1984Sci...224..506S

Those are the early ones from 1983 and 1984. I'll let you do the absolutely minimal research necessary to find the copious peer-review scientific papers since that have confirmed isolation of HIV, which has been established beyond any doubt as the cause of AIDS.

#2

Every assertion you have made is patently false. Cancer occurs in virtually every multi-cellular species of life the planet, and only one of them buys food at grocery stores. In any case, if you want home-grown food to be the only source of nourishment, you had better begin by making a list of the several billion people who must immediately begin starving to death.
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0 15. loadme commented 8 years ago

#2 thats important for sure, but it only covers 0-5% of all cancer cases
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+1 16. captain_obvious commented 8 years ago

@2 stop smoking so much stuff from your garden, and pls look up what cancer really is. go drink another carrot-juice or something
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-7 17. saturas commented 8 years ago

#3 I didnt ever said anything about 100% guarantee you dickhead, l2read you stupid disliking morons
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0 18. dennvp commented 8 years ago

im sorry if im skeptical it starts looking like the reality of "I am Legend"
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+1 19. FatHorse commented 8 years ago

#4 #10 : Dimitri :

So the entire scientific community down to every single lab technician on the planet is corrupt and is lying to the rest of the world.

That is what you actually believe...? Because that is exactly what you are saying.

You, sir, are an utterly freaking half brain ignorant IDIOT...! :O
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+1 20. Sizzlik (admin) commented 8 years ago

#17 Please watch your language..no need to insult anyone.
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0 21. ChainTexter commented 8 years ago

Poor little darling, tugs the heart strings...
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+1 22. spynode commented 8 years ago

#17 Actually you do make it sound so in first 3 sentences of your comment. "how to prevent peaople from getting cacer at all". Also you misspelled sh*t load of words so... l2write?.
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+1 23. ui236 commented 8 years ago

#10 'Wikipedia is for kids' I assume that is based on the fact that the author of the article is writing for kids? You could check that. There are some respected scientist writing articles on wikipedia. But I assume you didn't check the 100+ sources on this link
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-4 24. saturas commented 8 years ago

#22 you never typed drunk/tired...if you have no arguments, you came with grammar, what a lowlife. Find the meaning of the word "prevent" your problem with misunderstanding my text should be fine then.
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+1 25. Sizzlik (admin) commented 8 years ago

#24 Commenting drunk/tired..hmm..case closed
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-4 26. saturas commented 8 years ago

#24 you can go fuck yourself as well :P