Flying car - Moller Skycar M400

A cool invention that could solve the traffic problems and make driving more interesting.

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+9 1. Masutakusu commented 15 years ago

Arial vehicles are horrible when it comes to gas millage.
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+1 2. McLovin commented 15 years ago

Don't forget to turn on the transponder.
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+3 3. venomkd commented 15 years ago

it will never happen, that's just my opinion
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+3 4. itsSimple7 commented 15 years ago

Although these 'sky cars' are admittedly smaller than large commercial aircraft, consider what could happen when bad drivers start driving these around. Could be a WTC. Terrorism could happen much more easily as anyone could get a bomb, put it into their car, and crash it into a building. No curbs, fences, or roadblocks to stop you.
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0 5. Lacerta commented 15 years ago

#4 - Agreed this would be all dandy in a ideal world thou we dont live in that world unfortunatly this is something that is a cool idea but not practical for security reasons I could see those lightweight engines going to good use so its not a lost cause. Anyway thx for Posting was intresting (Thumbs Up).
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0 6. Squeeb commented 15 years ago

I agree with #4
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+2 7. theqcbeast commented 15 years ago

Now that we work on clean ways to transport... try to make it electrical or something or I fear these things are really gonna kill our planet!!! I agree with #3!
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+2 8. zf1 commented 15 years ago

#1 may be true for fossil fuels, but there are numerous alternative technologies, for example, hydrogen powered turbofan engines or advanced electric motor driven propeller. also, synthetic shark skin like surfaces have been proven to enhance aerodynamic properties. the same properties that would help to reduce energy consumption for those kind of technologies.

#2 a transponder for a civilian vtol will most likely turn on automatically.

#3 i disagree. if you search for "vtol" you should find countless prototypes, designs and concepts on similar technologies. besides, technology in general is getting progressively more advanced.

#4 #5 #6 first of all, if vtol aircraft became a popular replacement for land based vehicles, they will most likely have to travel through predetermined road systems for the sky which would be generated by computers and projected on the inside of the windshield. such road systems can easily be hooked up to a computer aided fly by wire control system and sensors to make it virtually impossible to fly outside the roads.
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-4 9. Robjeknor commented 15 years ago

9/10
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+2 10. patriotaus commented 15 years ago

i like how the put the mic a few hundred metres behind the the camera. this this is LOUD. so loud if it took off at the front of your house you wouldnt be able to hear a thing and will probably lead to being deaf.

IT WONT HAPPEN, well it wont happen now because theres no money, but this thing was built 10 years ago, has anyone heard an update?
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+1 11. its42 commented 15 years ago

This is a stupid sci-fi dream.
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+1 12. nooitaf (admin) commented 15 years ago

this is cool and i think its going to happen, because the other option would be to go down and build tunnels.. and thats not save at all. i also get sick of those terrorist concerns... because there is 1 things that we can't live without anymore that (if erased) could stop any terrorism we know. Communication!
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+2 13. Fergus_Thedog commented 15 years ago

I do not think people could be trusted to fly them well enough, even without the intention of terrorism they would be crashing all over the place. A gps autopilot while the thing is in the air would prevent some nasty crashes.
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+1 14. zf1 commented 15 years ago

#10 actually, the skycar uses Wankel rotary internal combustion engines, which will probably sound a little bit louder than a car. even if it used turbofan jet engines it wouldn't make you go deaf. currently they are only allowed to take off from airports because it is not currently street legal because it doesn't meet government regulation concerning size and other requirements.

"well it wont happen now because theres no money" -who has no money? Moller International? they obviously do if they are making flying cars, lol. ;)

"this thing was built 10 years ago, has anyone heard an update?" -well, seeing that they have been working on this project since the 1960's, i imagine that they have come far in the 40+ years of this projects existence. according to the FAQ page on Moller's website, they claim that they will be releasing limited numbers of the M400 skycar within the next 3 years for marketing demonstrators, special sales, and military applications.

#11 if it was a sci-fi dream you wouldn't be seeing a prototype, you would be seeing computer generated imagery.

#13 first of all, the point of a computer aided fly by wire control system is to help pilots fly in order to avoid crashes. they happen to use it in military technology and if they used it in commercial airlines they would have prevented 9/11.

also there is a simple contingency in case vtol aircraft fail: a rocket ejected parachute
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+1 15. patriotaus commented 15 years ago

#14 LOL

this guy has funded it himself, he has put 75mil in himself. because? no one is going to invest in it. yes he may sell one or 2 but this will never become practical for a few reasons. 1 - too much fuel, 2 - too loud (and yes you can, even ipods can make people go deaf eventually)3 - it will always be more expensive then the alternative. 4 - it will be less safe then the alternative. 5 - crash - you die, 6 - crash - alot of other people die, 7 - whats wrong with the ground? 8 - no space? you think you are going to be able to fly this anywhere? pfft, it will be restricted to only follow... roads? 9 - it will always be bigger then a normal car, 10- maintenance will be HUGE on these things 11 - the only way this will be allowed is if it is computer driven... computers suck, imagine it getting the BSOD midway to your destination 12 - people like to drive, not sit in an extremely loud uncomfortable (bouncy due to wind) hunka metal while they know they have a 2% chance of not getting home. 13 - imagine what your friends would say to you. yeah maybe it would be good in primary school, but if your all grown up and wearing pants people will laugh at the waste of money you put into just sitting in a very loud air bus. 14 - wouldnt you buy something better with your money? 15 - buy a tesla roadsta that has huge acceleration, something that you can drive, something that is safe, something that is practical, something that doesnt destroy the environment, something that doesn't have maintenance (only 2 moving parts or something)

i cant say there is a million reasons why this will never happen (as in economically viable), but i can say there is atleast 15 bloody good ones.

the jet pack was invented 20 times... but it... is ... impractical
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+1 16. patriotaus commented 15 years ago

sorry for the double post, but #14 i just read the bottom of your post.

do you really have seconds to before crash? no you dont, most people crash before even putting their foot on the break. so your telling me they have time to eject? its not like your flying a plane, there will be cars around you, your car will go down and kill other people without them knowing, you wouldnt be able to get to the trigger in time because... well it would have to be protected in some way so you dont accidentally click it.

sorry for destroying your dreams, but maybe you should choose something not so childish
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-3 17. caives commented 15 years ago

When people say they have seen a UFo. they have probably a Moller
Skycar M400.

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-4 18. migello commented 15 years ago

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+2 19. grizzlykiller2 commented 15 years ago

okay first if you crash then you wont stay in the sky!! second you got it from a damn tv or movie i mean come on think scientifically i'd love to be the terminator but im a human!
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+1 20. grizzlykiller2 commented 15 years ago

and the flying car will probably be copyright!!!
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+1 21. Nifen commented 15 years ago

One word (i think)
RamJet!
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+2 22. chance commented 15 years ago

I don't have the time to comment on half the bullshit #15 under analyzed, but I will comment on his next post, #16.

The seat eject wouldn't be fully reliant on the passenger, obviously. If they are producing fly cars wouldn't you think they would have an automated system to compliment it? Even parachutes have automated releases called the emergency pack that deploys at 1,000 ft. I would think that an automated release, similar to those in jets, would be implemented.

#20 I think your looking for "patent", which those are typically good for 20 years. A copyright would do nothing.

I sound like a total ass. HAHA >:)
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+2 23. grizzlykiller2 commented 15 years ago

Okay guys a flying car is a good idea but there's always troubleshooting hidden faults or something
this will be a good idea for space make a anti gravity car
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+1 24. patriotaus commented 15 years ago

lol at the guy who -ve all mine and +ve all his.

parachutes work in jets because there is usually not many jets following them. imagine jumping out of your car in the middle of the highway because your car gets hit. guess what, you are now dead
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0 25. mikesufc commented 15 years ago

Traffic flow would be impossible! And the number of crashes would be ridiculous!

That aside, how cool is that car!!
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+2 26. chance commented 15 years ago

I don't think you guys are thinking vague enough. First off, they do have automatic ejection seats in jets.. I know this for a fact, lol. Just brainstorming but I would think that everything would be on a closed course, with two lanes flying in opposite direction, hell you can even space them out a couple of miles for safety reasons. Also depending on the parameters, as in how high the lane is, and whether or not everyone is on a constant level, I think that figuring out a safe way to eject someone that's going down, or to the sides, would be easy to figure out.
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+2 27. chance commented 15 years ago

Wow, fucking wow! Take 2 seconds and do some research before making a comment, it's not time consuming. The first one I came across, the K-36 ejection seat, has an automatic ejection implemented, and is triggered when certain requirements are met (which can be found on their website). Note that this seat also has a manual ejection.. as it should. That was the first, and only one, I looked at. :(
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+2 28. chance commented 15 years ago

This is getting out of hand, your right! It's sometimes fun to argue though. Anyways here's the article I saw. It can be found here http://www.ejectorseats.co.uk/russia.htm

"It should be noted that safe ejection at low altitude is largely dependent upon pilot reaction time. The time for the seat system to operate (including canopy jettison or franging and (canopy deployment) is just one element of the equation. Hence the key to ensuring safe ejection at low altitude, both for VTOL aircraft and conventional aircraft, is to equip the aircraft with an automatic ejection system which fires the seat if bank or AoA exceed certain limits. Years earlier, the effectiveness of such a system on the experimental Yak-36 Freehand VTOL aircraft and the production variant of the Yak-38 shipboard attack aircraft had exceeded all expectations: 100% of the pilots who had ejected in take-off and landing accidents were saved!"

Anyways, all that nonsense aside, I think that it wouldn't be difficult for the passanger to manually eject if the cars were 2-3 miles up... and implement an automatic system when the cars went below, let's say, 1 mile. That's assuming that the cars are on a closed circuit.
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+1 29. eNdEmiOn06463 commented 15 years ago

I've seen way better flying "car" solutions.
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+2 30. zf1 commented 15 years ago

#29 it would be nice to hear some of those solutions ;)