A House Painter in L.A. talks about Illegal Immigration and its impact.

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-5 1. Austin commented 5 years ago

F*ck me. The bearded plaid alt right spokesman again??? The evils of illegal immigration – of course.

Never mind Umericans love the cheap produce they pick, the hotels they clean, the dishes they wash, and kids they look after and all of the other DDD jobs they do that Umericans refuse to because they are too demanding and the wages are too low. But lets ignore that and villify them. And make the claim that they are taking 'our' jobs. Bollocks. 98% of Americans wouldnt last a day in these labourers shoes.

Come on admin. Drone strikes, the evils of higher education turning American kids into socialists, and illegal immigrants taking ‘Merican’ jobs??

Has Snotr become the alt-right American Christian right conservative grievance video site?

I am happy to play but this current crop of videos is just polemical rubbish and will drive people outside Umerica away. Please ease up on the Fox news, Breitbart, Drudge report, Daily Caller talking points.

More dogs jumping at water from hose please – less hateful anti-immigrant, anti-Muslimism, pro Ra Ra US Military videos please…
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0 2. Judge-Jake commented 5 years ago

And it was a very long 2 minutes........
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+5 3. camoga commented 5 years ago

#1 #2 Seems like us 3 do not have much work today.:)
Austin a honest question why are you so bothered by people having different opinions (although I do agree in less trigger videos.) The only thing that bothered me about your comments are that you take them as hard-right thoughts, to me it is just common sense do I agree with everything in the last two videos, no but they are not some far right ideology. Seriously you do not need to watch every video.
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+1 4. snotraddict commented 5 years ago

#1 Seems like Austin didn't watch the video, just commented on the title.

I love how the elitist left push for open borders (who's people will work for less than minimum wage) and then constantly bitch about how low the wages are. It's simply supply and demand. If you can't find someone to work for $10/hr, maybe you can at $12 or $15.

It's also interesting how the elitist left claims to be for the poor, yet poor (Americans) are the ones who suffer the most from cheap labor from other countries.

#1 and Austin continues with the propaganda that "they're just doing work that Americans won't do" when in fact Americans will do that work, just not for that cheap. Seemingly that'd be a good thing resulting higher wages. Imagine a world if the elitist left actually cared about the poor.

But it's not about the poor people, it's about the power of "pretending" to care.
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-1 5. kikinovak commented 5 years ago

Snotr has recently become a propaganda platform for alt-right. User sux2bu is flooding the site with his crap.
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+2 6. andreas0816 commented 5 years ago

I ( from germany) do agree:... there is more and more of that crap, on a site that is supposed to be funny, and not meant for "trumping" "alternative facts" all over the world.
Having someone like Austin around who is argumenting against it, instead of just ignoring it...makes me hopeful. A bit. At least.
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0 7. Austin commented 5 years ago

Ok. #3 camoga – allow me to answer your question – which is actually an assertion btw.

I am not bothered by ‘people having different opinions’. On the contrary, I expect people to have different opinions and I try to learn from them. What bothers me, and I will bring in this video and #4. Snotraddict’s comments as examples – is when people make false claims, misstate facts, inaccurately or intentionally misrepresent a situation etc., engage in straw man arguments, deny the ideological stance of their position, demean / denigrate other people due to religion ethnicity class or culture, or make ad hominin attacks.

#3 camoga. Perhaps you don’t realize it but the ‘common sense solutions’ that you find appealing are a) the propagandistic talking points of the alt-right and b) often inaccurate and/or paint a misleading or inaccurate picture that is almost inevitably build a theme of ‘let’s go back to the good old days’ of a white society, patriarchy, and Judaeo-Christian cultural dominant society – NONE of which is actually demographically or economically possible in 2018. Most modern nations have changed due to immigration and inexorable social-economic changes for both the better and the worse.

The socialism video just make ludicrous statements about the tenants of Marxism, which I promise Sux2Bu and others have zero real knowledge about, university education, basic economics, etc. etc. That video was so rife with falsehoods, misstatements and inaccuracies – I do not know where to begin. It was uninformed silly propaganda.
Anyone with a modicum of knowledge of political science would tell you this. Or who has worked in higher education. Now knowledge is ‘elitist’ and we live in a world of ‘alternative facts’ so perhaps you could challenge yourself and read a bit – try the wiki pages for Marxism and Socialism. They are not bad. You be the judge. But please do not accept this drivel as accurate or truthful. Try to be a little bit sceptical...

As for #4. Snotraddict. These are slightly more compelling arguments, I agree higher and perhaps even living wages are a good thing, as is employing citizens or at least having jobs for them take, BUT you are using a very common conservative strategy – appeal to emotion over economic and social and cultural realities.

So Snoty, you are pushing up the minimum wage? Brilliant. You know who isn’t? Manufacturers, employers, and the US federal government. Higher labour costs lead to higher consumer costs and people refuse to pay more for their food, meals, hotel rooms, constructed building etc. etc. You have made a good but idealistic suggestion – one where the gov’t presumably steps in to force a higher wage because history is clear, the free markets will not do it on their own. That is very, dare a I say it socialist or even Marxist of you!!... forcing the free market to not move away from competition and to take care of its workers? Never imagined you as a stinking red Snoty.

If you want wage and price controls (which is what you are advocating) that equals govt intervention and you hate that. ;-)

> the propaganda that "they're just doing work that Americans won't do" when in fact Americans will do that work, just not for that cheap.

That is just a fallacy. You can pay (should actually) pay produce and fruit pickers much more but even at competitive wages Americans do not have the stamina to do this ruling dirty work. Ditto for dishwashing, cleaning etc. etc. It is now culturally below most Americans to do this work and companies cannot find Americans to fill such positions. This is a fact. For example Trump just hired 40 foreigners via a work visa system because he couldn’t get Americans to work at Mar-a Lago ;-) If Americans do not want to work there, a farm field etc. is impossible.
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+1 8. thundersnow commented 5 years ago

#6 and #5 I totally agree with you! <3
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-1 10. thundersnow commented 5 years ago

I'm with #1! :) But actually, instead we should submit videos that show the other side....
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-1 11. Natan_el_Tigre commented 5 years ago

Poor guy is confusing the problem with its symptom. :'(

https://www.wikihow.com/Report-Employers-Who-Hire-Illegal-Immigrants (i)