The Tax System, Explained in Beer!

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0 1. brandx commented 6 years ago

Thankfully not in the lease bit patronising.
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-1 2. oleHashow commented 6 years ago

4 out of 10 dont pay taxes?
piss poor country!
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-1 3. snotraddict commented 6 years ago

#2 it's actually better than that. A fair amount of those people who don't pay taxes, actually get a tax rebate as well. The American IRS is actually, underhandedly, part of the welfare system.

It's all about making things "fair" you know.
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0 4. oleHashow commented 6 years ago

rebate1
?ri?be?t/Submit
noun
1.
a partial refund to someone who has paid too much for tax, rent, or a utility.

How can you say people dont pay taxes get rebate?

Please use simple words so we can understand you
ty
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-4 5. kikinovak commented 6 years ago

Unfortunately Snotr has turned into Breitbart. A once great video platform has been hijacked by a vocal alt-right minority who ruined the site with their crap.

I've been watching Snotr regularly for many years, but I guess it's time to quit.

sux2bhere
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+4 6. Austin commented 6 years ago

#3. Snotraddict. You have really outdone yourself on the last 3 videos peddling your alt-right nonsense. I just talked about people making false claims, misstate facts, inaccurately or intentionally misrepresent a situation etc., to engage in straw man arguments – and you didn’t fail to disappoint.

On cue – case and point.

>#3. Snotraddict ‘A fair amount of those people who don't pay taxes, actually get a tax rebate as well’

Good Fox & Friends talking points! But you have deliberately failed to distinguish WHAT taxes people are not paying, WHAT TAXES THEY ARE PAYING, and why because it would reveal your mistruths – yet again.

Let us use the 47% number presented by 2012 presidential candidate Mitt Romney.

He is referring to FEDERAL income tax.

Why don’t people pay it? A) Because they do not earn enough or with deductions etc they fall below the minimum threshold. These are not well off people.

What you failed to mention is that they still pay STATE, LOCAL and payroll taxes. And because they earn so little and they may be entitled to a refundable tax credit upon filing an income tax return for the year.

Get that. They earn so little they qualify for a rebate on taxes they paid via their payroll. That is the rebate – on taxes they already paid.

I have read that in reality only about 17% of all taxpayers had zero income and payroll tax liability and of that subset 60% were elderly.

Meanwhile 100 profitable Fortune 500 companies — nearly 40 percent — paid no taxes in at least one year between 2008 and 2015. Eighteen, including General Electric, International Paper, Priceline.com and PG&E, incurred a total federal income tax bill of less than zero over the entire eight-year period — meaning they received rebates.

Where is the outrage for the corporate welfare?

Nah, much easier to pick on the takers and not the makers.

You are such a disingenuous right wing troll.
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-5 7. kikinovak commented 6 years ago

Here's a suggestion. Either create a special category "Alt Right Propaganda" on Snotr. Or even better, implement a function like "Hide all videos posted by user <alt_right_fox_news_gun_nut_redneck>".

Snotr was a place of joy, and now it's become a mouthpiece for Trump-voting loudmouths.
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+2 8. huldu commented 6 years ago

Videos like this along with religion will always cause a reaction from people. I don't like the video. In the society we live in today you should be very careful because there will always be more poor people than rich. That's when things really start to fall apart. It happens all the time throughout our history. Is it really that hard to treat people with the same respect you want yourself? I think not. It does't matter if you're rich or poor, when you're buried in the ground the worms won't care.
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+1 9. Judge-Jake commented 6 years ago

Think of the posts on Snotr like channels on your TV. You don't have to watch them all, if you have a problem with a specific user like Suxi for example, just don't watch any of his or her video. The video's exist in the world, but you won't see them, won't get upset and won't know anything about them...simples.
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0 10. thundersnow commented 6 years ago

Unfortunately I have to agree with #7. :x

And #9, if you chose not to watch sux's videos, you might as well leave snotr, because those are for the most part the only ones posted anymore, which is fine with me. I submitted over 20 videos back in the beginning of July but not a single one was posted, couldn't be that they were all bad. Then I posted one more two weeks ago or so, but it was never posted either, so I'm okay with that, but just telling you where snotr is heading towards, at least for the time being. If my videos don't get posted anymore, no big deal, but I wished to see at least more videos from other snotr users, like you, Austin, mwak, ringmaster, etc...
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-2 11. fjwjr commented 6 years ago

What this video fails to point out is how the people who pay the most receive the least amount of services while those that pay the least receive the most services. Great system where you are forced to pay for things you are barred from using.
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+1 12. Austin commented 6 years ago

#11. fjwjr Sigh. It becomes more and more evident that you really just repeat Fox & Friendly talking points and do not consider what you are actually saying.

‘how the people who pay the most receive the least amount of services while those that pay the least receive the most services.

First off, once again very Christian of you. Jebus would argue that those who have been lucky and possess extra should share it with the less fortunate no? Not in fjwjr ‘s Ayn Randian world. I got it; I earned it – mine mine mine. I do not want to share with the takers.

First, would you agree that the working poor should be exempt from additional taxation?

Probably not but luckily, most modern societies try to ease financial burdens on the least well off. So that is already going to skew things. The poor, the elderly, children, disabled, etc are not going not be able to contribute as much but they will still use revenue collected from taxes. Or are you opposed to the whole idea of a social welfare net?

Or better yet should the poor, the elderly, children, disabled etc stil pay taxes.. is that what you want?? For all to contribute regardless?

Then, assuming for the sake of argument an exponential / progressive rate of taxation (more money = more taxes and no deductions) the people who pay the most do so because they have made the most. It is called a progressive tax rate. How can a rich person use more of the basic social services that taxes fund? That is just an asinine argument. I assume they could try to use more roads or infrastructure or armed forces etc etc but the fact is that it is the society and the safety and stability that it provides which is what allowed them to accumulate more wealth than others and as part of the social compact – yes they do end up giving more back than they put in. It is called progressive taxation and living and paying for a modern society that takes care of all its citizens – irrespective or race, creed, religion and social class.

Do you every pause and think how self-centred and selfish you are when you posit such inane arguments? I am a self-made man. Fine but you have been able to succeed because you have electricity and fire departments and a military to protect you and roads to drive on and health care for your veterans etc. etc etc

Honestly, taxation is always odious, no one like to pay taxes, but it an obligation for living in a city and state. You really need to grow the f*ck up and think like a citizen for once and not some pissy ant-gov’t alt righter.

And ‘forced to pay for things you are barred from using’ WTF are you talking about?

Lastly, since when did you care about the wealthy paying too much in taxes and not getting enough in return? I am calling bullshit on this supposed argument. What you are really complaining about is the alt-right gripe that their taxes are going to things and people (see after school lunch programs and brown and black poor people) that you feel are undeserving. You want more of a say in how your tax dollars are spent. Never mind that is not how it works and I imagine many of your American comrades would elect to not pay for endless foreign wars and drone strikes.
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+3 13. gremlinbyname commented 6 years ago

I think ive been out drinking with the first 4 :/
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+1 14. kikinovak commented 6 years ago

#9 The last four videos were mainly adressed to folks with an IQ in the single digits who get a hard-on watching aircraft carriers or hearing Donald Trump talk. So much for "different channels".
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-2 15. nomaddaf commented 6 years ago

#5 LMAO !!!!!!!!! You don't pay to see this site. No one will miss you or even know you have gone ! Thank you for making this video's point !!! Jack ass !
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0 16. kikinovak commented 6 years ago

#15 Speaking of economic matters, there's an inflation of exclamation marks in your post.

Snotr.com used to be a place of joy, filled with laugther. A bar filled with nice folks you could talk to.

Now you have a couple of alt-right evangelists with aggressive avatars (a rifle pointed at you, WTF) shouting at everyone in the bar about how we "libtards" and "socialists" are clueless about everything.

In real life, these guys - we have a couple like that in our village - can simply be kicked out of the bar when they ruin the fun. Until recently, this sort of losers were happy on Breitbart and Infowars, but unfortunately you kind of see them everywhere now.
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+1 17. thundersnow commented 6 years ago

#16 Please don't leave, bad enough Burimi left last year and now you and uglah. This only supports this site becoming an even more right wing oriented, which is very disappointing. I have known snotr for many years, came here when my boys were still kids and brought me here, and when it was still a site of diverse video content. Every day I looked forward to come here. Now I have to worry what has become of this site. But leaving is not the answer either.
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-2 18. RobertTusk commented 6 years ago

More cut and paste right wing propaganda from poster sux2bu.
He has swamped snotr with 741 pieces of ready made propaganda.
This guy is straight from Breitbart central casting.
Breitbart knows how to tell colossal lies and stick to them even at the risk of looking ridiculous.
They learned that from Joseph Goebbles.
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+1 19. sunnydaze4me commented 6 years ago

#18 What a frigging snowflake you are. Liberal's tolerance only extends
to people who completely agree with them ,it seems.This video must have "triggered" you and you need a safe space to play with some Play-Doh till you calm down.
You might notice that up votes are over 50% on this video, so you are in the minority.
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+1 20. joeman commented 6 years ago

Why shouldn’t number 16 leave? has never posted anything no videos zero all he does is point the finger same with #18 newbie loudmouth
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-1 21. Natan_el_Tigre commented 6 years ago

Why would such a well-made video conflate taxation with consumerism? Try again and discuss how employers are unsustainably pricing their employees out of the market:

https://fred.stlouisfed.org/series/ECIWAG and https://fred.stlouisfed.org/series/CP (i)
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0 22. ComentAtor commented 6 years ago

i want to troll this channel on youtube
idiots

no, not idiots.. they are bad bad people