Cop sends innocent guy into a coma

The police themselves calls it a "tragic accident". :O

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+27 1. irishgek commented 12 years ago

As my first comment here id like to say ....Well done , thats just wrong , and the comment made by the police , how typical of them , no remorse nothing , sick , the rest of the world looks at this video and what will they think , abuse of power i call it , idiots
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+13 2. chance commented 12 years ago

This wouldn't have happened if he had only pushed an american. They're to fat to be tossed like that.
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-10 3. traudong commented 12 years ago

look at both sides of the problem, why did the guy run away?
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+4 4. irishgek commented 12 years ago

Yes so thats a good reason for a 19st cop to smash him into a coma , And Why does it say british cop when its a american . Please Change Title Mod
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+4 5. dave9191 commented 12 years ago

Why is this a British cop? The incident is in Seattle. The cops are dressed like American cops, and the police statement is done with an American accent, by someone not dressed like a British cop. So the title of the vid should be "American cop sends innocent guy into a coma".

#3 as for running, its a natural instinct. People chase you for no good reason, you run for your life. It takes time to process the fact that its a cop and that you should stop. Or maybe he thought they finally caught up with him for those parking tickets he didnt pay last week.

Its no reason to use that much force. The cop should have caught him - bear hug and to the ground, not slammed him into the wall, if they thought he was someone else.
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+7 6. Louie commented 12 years ago

ditto #1, how many times do you see this? 250 lb. cop and a 150 lb. perp. Plus the fact they said he was the wrong guy too. I don't blame the law for enforcement, but get the communications right. If I were that guy I would've tried to move out of the way of that freight train too. :(
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+13 7. truckito123 commented 12 years ago

jesus, what's happening to SNOTR. Man, bring us some joy. This vid is horrible. Police abuse. I wonder what's next. . .
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+9 8. prankphonecall commented 12 years ago

the tragic accident is the part where he hit his head on the wall, but he should never have been shoulder charged into the wall.

I think that classifies as 'excessive force', it's not like the dude was running fast, the fat copy was just being lazy and maybe trying to impress some football scouts.

Maybe he was in a hurry to get to the doughnut shop.
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+4 9. pokesmot commented 12 years ago

It's true that there are a lot of bad cops out there.. but there are also a lot of decent ones. I'm in no way supporting what happened in this video.. but people should not be so quick to judge.

There is obviously a story behind what happened, maybe the officer was justified maybe not. Unless you are in the cops shoes the moment everything goes down, it's hard to understand why they do the things they do. The officer could have just been power tripping cause he was new, or had knowledge the suspect was armed with a knife and wanted to knock the suspect down before apprehending.

Being in a public place possibly armed with a knife / possibly smacked up on drugs: they can't shoot the guy, and they often cant taser the guy; they obviously don't want to get stabbed themselves so if I was in the cops shoes and someone was running from me i probably would have done the same thing. The officer wasn't aiming for the guys head he was simply trying to knock the guy down, and it is tragic that he went down so hard with such brutal injuries.

Just remember, if your ever in a life or death bind they will be the ones putting their life on the line to help you out. As much as some people love to criticize the police, modern society can't function without them.

my 2 cents for what its worth :S
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+11 10. traudong commented 12 years ago

#5, when I see cops chasing after me, my natural instinct tells me to root at the spot and show my hands clearly.
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+6 11. Aliquantulus commented 12 years ago

#5 Thanks for the heads up. I should have paid more attention and edited the title before publishing it. :)
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-7 12. traudong commented 12 years ago

#5, when I see cops chasing after me, my natural instinct tells me to root at the spot and show my hands clearly.
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+3 13. modder8her commented 12 years ago

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-2 14. Yellowdie12 commented 12 years ago

I totally agree with the cop and think he did the right thing.
1) You are told that is the man and you run after him.
2) He runs away from you, you run faster.
3) You have been told he is armed and dangerous; so when you get to him, you do not walk up and politely ask him to show his hands. You body check the guy to the ground and cuff him the hard way.
4) Moral of the story, if you do not play nice with the cops, they will not place nice with you.

#5 and #10, seriously? Your natural instinct is to run from the cops? Wow. The correct natural instinct is to STOP. Kinda the exact opposite...
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+5 15. messmaker commented 12 years ago

#14 - I disagree. Cops should know the difference between arresting and playing WWE Wrestlemania XXV. Let's not get back to Vancouver 2007/10/26, should we?

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Actually we never see him running. The cop must have seen him stopped too. And i bet he saw the wall behind him. man. Wall. Push. Head. Yeah, american cops' thinking. He could have killed him and he probably did. Is that the cops work out there? Cause some of you guys sound like it was completely normal.
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-3 16. irishgek commented 12 years ago

Ok Sirioz , #14 you are retarded You are told the man running AWAY from him , and yes even when you do nothing wrong when a cop of that size runs at you , you would run . He runs you run faster ....he diddent run faster he ran at him pounded him into a wall and put him in a coma . no one said he was armed and dangerous they said the cops were looking for people involved in a fight , not that any one was armend and dangerous and also look at the video he diddent even run he walked a little faster to the right and why because theres a bloody steam train running at him with a elbow out , pure police stupidity and burtality you can even see him putting up his arm in defense.
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-1 17. mvanveen81 commented 12 years ago

With a straight face he says "We dont plan on hurting anybody" ... but if we see a chance to bodycheck an innocent bystander into a brick wall we will take it! wtf...
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-6 18. Cifer commented 12 years ago

The problem is the cops are fat untrained bastards who think they stand above the law... 95% of them are only self confident coz they carry a gun. - if they would get trained in a real martial art that wouldnt happen ....

#10 really? - i bet i would walk away coz i would think he wants something from somebody else ...
but if he attacks me my natural reflex would be to send him into a coma
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0 19. Squider commented 12 years ago

At the very least this officer should be fired and at best tried for attempted manslaughter. Excessive use of force is an irresponsibility afforded by exactly the attitude expressed by his superior. If there is no punishment for police officers with criminal intent, then of course this type of thing will occur. People in positions of authority will always abuse their power if they have no proper oversight. I say that officer should be charged and held fully accountable for his actions in a court of law.
Then maybe other officers may instead choose to ask questions first and THEN shoot later.
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+3 20. traudong commented 12 years ago

#14, guess ur too busy to read properly. I said that I would stop if I were chased by cops.

#18, r u stupid or something? Walk away and run away are 2 completely different actions and do u know there are laws to protect cops. "Send him into a coma", u dont want to spend the rest of ur life behind bars, do ya?
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-3 21. tastytim commented 12 years ago

Its common sense, dont talk someone that close to a wall, unless you want to hurt or kill them...
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-3 22. zsir commented 12 years ago

well dont those cops have eye's? that hunted man was asian not like the victim and he had some blood or something all over his face-.- but well it was somehow an accident that he fell that way.. 1m from or 1m closed to the wall and he would be just fine.. still the cop is guilty or if not why dont they just knock over everyone they dont like and send him into a frikin coma.. they deserve to die xD
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+2 23. LightAng3l commented 12 years ago

If the kid knocked the officer into a coma...I think it would have not been "just a tragic accident" and the kid would have ended up in jail...but the officer is "special" and he has a license to kill... makes me SICK !
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+2 24. MakeTnotWar commented 12 years ago

I don't actually see much running here. The poor guy is right in front of a door inside some kind of mall. Imagine yourself in a mall, just in front of a door and some cops running in the direction of that door. Wouldn't you try to get out of their way AS QUICKLY AS POSSIBLE?
Do that kind of thing to a cop and try to call it an accident before his partners bullet hits you.
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+2 25. ringmaster commented 12 years ago

Cop should be fired. They are only allowed certain things when they have identified themselves. Hope he pays dearly till the innocent guy wakes up. People running is not equal great threats.
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-4 26. Sizzlik (admin) commented 12 years ago

looooooool...why is traudong comment #10 and #12 rated so different?..its the same is +7 .. the other is -3 lool
shows how fast people judge here..not even knowing what exactly is written...or sometimes shown/said in a vid

About the vid..baad mistake..this was way too much force..he wasnt running..he looked to the side..shocked a sec thinkin WTF and bam..tackled and flying. The cop could rather point his gun on him (if he is THAAAT much of a threat) and force him that way on the ground...but this flying tackle was pointless..even if it was the right suspect..
Nothing against cops...but american cops..calm down a bit..the whole world got an eye on matter that there worser cops elsewhere like africa or muslim you see..your on focus all time
(Best thing is when police brutality is recored from their own car cams..stupids)
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+4 27. silly_sy commented 12 years ago

this is shocking! its amazing how the police can get away with it. is anyone else did that they would get sent down. this is how the british police do it
dont no if your aload to post links on here so sorry if your not. this one is just as bad!
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+4 28. sux2bu commented 12 years ago

#27 My goodness , the beat-down that gang of British cops gave that poor fellow was ten times worse than the shove given in the coma video.One of the cops looked to be punching the fellow in the back of the head which can kill or cause brain damage.With their knees they were grinding the poor sap into the pavement.Then they would back-off and taz him again! This looked as bad as the Rodney King incident.
This type of behavior occurs all over the world and some of it could be avoided if suspects would just follow police instructions.
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-1 29. Aliquantulus commented 12 years ago

Name calling and use of racial slures will get your comment removed and if you keep doing it you're account will be banned along with you IP-address.

You're allowed to discuss, but play nice or suffer the consequences.
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+3 30. Sjattuh commented 12 years ago

Uhm.. It was just an accident. I am quite sure the copper just wanted to knock him down as the kid was targetted as a possible suspect.

So no I don't see any form of excessive violence here. Just a very unlucky fall.
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+2 31. chance commented 12 years ago

#26 The second one was considered a double post. No need for people to read the second one, hence the negative posts.
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0 32. Cifer commented 12 years ago

#29 i am sorry but i dont like getting asked if i am stupid, especially if it comes from a little kid - and i didn't used racial slures - i just used the f** word ...
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-1 33. SpikedSilver commented 12 years ago

to protect and serve. maybe an iq test would help. any normal brain would clearly calculate, fat man fast, hits thin man slow, 1 meter to wall... thats fatal
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+3 34. Blasterjk commented 12 years ago

The people that have the initial instinct to flee when a cop advances are the ones that have a reason to run to begin with. People like me who would be innocent of anything would stand there and speak to the officer to figure it out.
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-2 35. Intricate commented 12 years ago

are cops in america told that the wild west is still wild or what?
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0 36. cosminb commented 12 years ago

Enough about instinct. This has nothing to do with instinct. Every action was premeditated by the cops. The only instinct I saw in the video was the guy stop dead in his tracks. Showing your hands clearly to the police does not involve instinct, it's the result of a thought.

Maybe you guys in America learned this automatism, to play nice with the cops right from the start, but in other parts of the world, where people very rarely have to deal with cops, these things don't come natural.
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+1 37. JerryD commented 12 years ago

There are a few ill considered words above, not mentioning which ones. As far as I can see from the vid the guy doesn't appear to be on the run from anything, he could as well be runnig towards something or somewhere. The policeman appers from his left side and the guy turns toward him which suggest that he might not be fully (or not at all) aware of what is going on. The policeofficer tackles him front on. If the guy was runnig from the officer he would be in a straight line away from the police and also should have been tackled from the rear. Further; there's nothing in this guys posture that could be seen as resisting arrest. There is obiously nothing but unrequired exessive force from this particular officer.
And to point out another aspect. This is an action by a single individual and not what is common by the vast majority of US law enforcement personel. I have met their colleagues in several European nations and in some US states. And from the latter I can only say that they may be sometimes very authoritative but always being respectful. Some have been very polite and friendly. So its wrong to assume that american poiceofficers are a bunch of brainless bullies, this is only poor considered prejudice. And in the end - the person in coma was in fact innocent. Any ideas what guilty or not guilty persons should or should not do in such situations are pure speculations... This person have rights and should have been approached accordingly by this officer. The person talking to the media shows very poor judgement in choise of words; he should just stated that this is a tragic incident and there is no reason to offer any other statements pending an ongoing investigation. Wrong words can trigger lots of violente response from some groups
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-3 38. retrabution commented 12 years ago

CHRIS DID NOT RUN u americans go in get it all wrong and cover it up later
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-1 39. Pilum commented 12 years ago

Yesish accident, no, it isn't just any accident, the police man should be tried for manslaughter. They should really learn what appropriate use of force means, he could have just grabbed him. As long as coppers don't get good training, do not know how to differentiate between normal peeps and heavy criminals, these things will continue to happen and THAT is certainly not an accident nor is it something anyone should condone. Those who do are absolutely criminals and thugs in my view.
Push THEM into a coma, they think it's all right! I'm sure that when they wake up ( if they wake up) they won't press charges.

With scenes like these, can you blame anyone, innocent or guilty, running away from the police?
That society is sick, ergo, it is neither an incident nor really an accident.
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-3 40. Tr3mm0r commented 12 years ago

I don't need the police. I can solve my problems on my own. And when i see those "pric**" taking away my tax money and spending it on hookers and donoughts i just want to shoot one myself...
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+1 41. budley commented 12 years ago

That was extremely excessive but no matter how good the training a few bad apples will always get through. I would have thought a "Police, Stop or i will shoot" would get the job done much better. That is also by far the worst PR statement i have ever seen, no apology or anything.

#27 that is a very harsh video, the punching to the head was not called for, prehaps the police in that vid require some basic science lessons, electricity causes muscles to contract so shouting put your arms out and then stunning him with taser 2 seconds later is kinda counter productive.......
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0 42. Phil-Lloyd commented 12 years ago

It says he 'ran'. I don't see that in the video - not running as if to escape, but just retreating in reaction to someone coming at him agressively. Maybe there was more 'running' before the clip. No way to know from this.
I don't think injuries was the intent, but simply to knock the kid down - not "abuse of power" or "excessive force".

The people who think it was excessive are NOT thinking it through, but reacting emotionally to the sight of an innocent person being put into a coma.


... but did he act irresponsibly?
... do you think he meant to even mildly injure the kid?
... if so why would he hope to injure him at least a little?
... if it HAD been the kid who knifed another person, would you feel the same about the whole incident?

If you are going to judge, it is your moral responsibility TO THINK, not simply feel!
Your feelings come from what you think, and to feel appropriately about this whole incident, you must know enough about it, and think enough about it.
Judgments on some aspects must be HELD until you know.
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0 43. nidal75 commented 12 years ago

cops are mother fuckers......this officer is saying we dont know why he ran ...if i saw someone like this stubid big fucking cop runing toward me i will run 2 mother fucker