Steel frame building demolish
This is what happens when a steel frame building is demolished.
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2. Yellowdie12 commented 15 years ago
HOLY CRAP!!! DANG!
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6. Kurisusan commented 15 years ago
The twin towers were rigged at the bottom with explosives.
The planes were just a "distraction".
Watch zeitgeist, they explain a lot.
Terrorists my ass.
Awesome video bytheway.
The planes were just a "distraction".
Watch zeitgeist, they explain a lot.
Terrorists my ass.
Awesome video bytheway.
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7. moskwiz commented 15 years ago
#6 do you know what sarcasm means?
.. i.e. hence the " "
.. i.e. hence the " "
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11. moskwiz commented 15 years ago
#10 .. you know you really should watch zeitgeist.. it's just a shortcut to all the counter-arguments of the official 911 report
Jet-fuel doesn't burn as hot as to melt steel Even if it had, it wouldn't have resulted in a free-fall demolition of BOTH the buildings AND the WT7 building which didn't even get a plane in it and which was reported as to have fallen down BEFORE it actually fell (there's BBC live coverage as video proof for that argument)
There is no truth though.. it's all interpretation
Jet-fuel doesn't burn as hot as to melt steel Even if it had, it wouldn't have resulted in a free-fall demolition of BOTH the buildings AND the WT7 building which didn't even get a plane in it and which was reported as to have fallen down BEFORE it actually fell (there's BBC live coverage as video proof for that argument)
There is no truth though.. it's all interpretation
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13. ringmaster commented 15 years ago
#5, nothing in #1 says anything about gravity. I strongly advise people to 'implode' buildings and not make them roll.
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16. whowhatme commented 15 years ago
Physics is , as Physics does , Jennyee ,
Mamma said only a moron would accept a building that size made fom a steel frame would fall at that speed without being demolished by expooosieeve .
I guess it's true though .
Mamma said only a moron would accept a building that size made fom a steel frame would fall at that speed without being demolished by expooosieeve .
I guess it's true though .
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17. moskwiz commented 15 years ago
You know I have dealt with this subject too much to start telling you about all the little nudges that make all of the events surrounding 911 look like a 10-point hint as to it all being a plan to invade Iraq and then some
However it's all common knowledge, public data etc..
Seriously, watch Zeitgeist, watch Empire Of the City.. you could even check out some of Alex Jones' publishings on this subject.. If you open your eyes wide enough to see the big picture you will see that in order for all that happened to be a series of unfortunate events or mere coincidence, would be a chance of say a trillion to one or so
As for bush.. Naturally i meant whoever actually Runs your great country, not Bush or Clinton or Obama Although Bush's admin. really was a bunch of hoodlems
PS- no steel-frame building in the history of mankind had ever fallen over from planes crashing into them before 911
However it's all common knowledge, public data etc..
Seriously, watch Zeitgeist, watch Empire Of the City.. you could even check out some of Alex Jones' publishings on this subject.. If you open your eyes wide enough to see the big picture you will see that in order for all that happened to be a series of unfortunate events or mere coincidence, would be a chance of say a trillion to one or so
As for bush.. Naturally i meant whoever actually Runs your great country, not Bush or Clinton or Obama Although Bush's admin. really was a bunch of hoodlems
PS- no steel-frame building in the history of mankind had ever fallen over from planes crashing into them before 911
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18. banzemanga commented 15 years ago
#(removed comment) You are wrong. If there have been any buckling deformation the way the structure would have been brought down would be similar to this video (first sideways).
However, the way the twin towers fell down was horizontal. You should check who they actually demolish steel frame buildings.
However, the way the twin towers fell down was horizontal. You should check who they actually demolish steel frame buildings.
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20. irishgek commented 15 years ago
Way to steal off failblog or other site , as thos black lines seem to chop off the failblog logo and saw it days ago , impressive but well , all this crap in the comments about the twin tower , jesus let it go allready
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21. kainim commented 15 years ago
#18:i did not see a gaping hole at the base of the structure so that is not an option...
anyway, i don't want to dig in to this WTC stuff because all people have different opinions, it is a fact though, that it wasn't the first terrorist attack on the wtc, you can have endless discussions about it, saying "look a puff there on the builing, must be from an explosion", or "structure was weakened..." i dont care, what matters is that a lot of people died and it will take a long time to figure out who did it. And if they find out, what will happen then? yay we got him everyone happy? no, it won't bring back the dead... it will just ground up the grief and memories, we'll see what the future brings
I only wonder why the government would do that, and don't tell me that it was because of the oil in Afghanistan or Iraq because they didn't quite profit from the war as far as i know.
anyway, i don't want to dig in to this WTC stuff because all people have different opinions, it is a fact though, that it wasn't the first terrorist attack on the wtc, you can have endless discussions about it, saying "look a puff there on the builing, must be from an explosion", or "structure was weakened..." i dont care, what matters is that a lot of people died and it will take a long time to figure out who did it. And if they find out, what will happen then? yay we got him everyone happy? no, it won't bring back the dead... it will just ground up the grief and memories, we'll see what the future brings
I only wonder why the government would do that, and don't tell me that it was because of the oil in Afghanistan or Iraq because they didn't quite profit from the war as far as i know.
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23. banzemanga commented 15 years ago
Ya, I know it doesn't have to do with the video. People sorry to bring it up. (nice video by the way)
#21 It is true that this video there is a big hole in it but even if the gap were smaller, it should have been gone sideways at least for the top part of it and the bellow remain intact. But the entire thing fell down at the same rate.
It is true that the unfortunate event would not be reverted and the lives would not come back but ignorance is not better. By knowing the truth at least we can prevent it in the future.
Watch this video is and learn:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yVieTN4BeHQ&feature=related
#(removed comment) Yes, the material used for the demolition was thermite. I see that you are well informed.
#21 It is true that this video there is a big hole in it but even if the gap were smaller, it should have been gone sideways at least for the top part of it and the bellow remain intact. But the entire thing fell down at the same rate.
It is true that the unfortunate event would not be reverted and the lives would not come back but ignorance is not better. By knowing the truth at least we can prevent it in the future.
Watch this video is and learn:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yVieTN4BeHQ&feature=related
#(removed comment) Yes, the material used for the demolition was thermite. I see that you are well informed.
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24. whowhatme commented 15 years ago
So ,
Can we accept that steel framed buildings don't fall in the same way as brick built buildings ?
Is that an accepted fact ?
If accepted .
Can anyone produce any evidence of a steel frame building being purposly demolished and falling in the same way as WTC7 ?
Can we accept that steel framed buildings don't fall in the same way as brick built buildings ?
Is that an accepted fact ?
If accepted .
Can anyone produce any evidence of a steel frame building being purposly demolished and falling in the same way as WTC7 ?
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29. Seekerofall commented 15 years ago
As far as we know, here in North America, we still live in a free society. If someone(s) has different views or theories on anything, he/she is aloud to express them. I don't believe that one cleaning product that I see advertised on tv is better than another cleaning product seen advertised on tv only because it says it is. Poor analogy, I know but, gets the point across. I read the posts above me and decided to finaly watch Zeitgeist. It evokes thought and let's face it. We can all afford more serious thought now and again.
My point......don't knock what you don't know.
My point......don't knock what you don't know.
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30. Atkinc088 commented 15 years ago
Anyone who believes that the United States government orchestrated the events of September 11th, 2001 is a complete moron. This video is about a demolition of a steel building gone awry. Moderators, I ask that all comments not pertaining to this video, i.e. any comment about 9/11 (including this one) be deleted. It pisses me off to no end when people disgrace my country by making such outrageous accusations.
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31. swf2012 commented 15 years ago
#20 This video has been on TV all over the world, you say ripped from failblog but they "ripped" it as well.
If only one source could spread a certain newstopic, I'm afraid we wouldn't see a lot of what's going on in this world
About the black lines chopping off the logo.. look in the top-right corner and you'll see *drums* another logo !!
#29 I'm with you !!
If only one source could spread a certain newstopic, I'm afraid we wouldn't see a lot of what's going on in this world
About the black lines chopping off the logo.. look in the top-right corner and you'll see *drums* another logo !!
#29 I'm with you !!
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33. castoutnaway commented 15 years ago
#33 lol
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34. moskwiz commented 15 years ago
#21 .. After 911 the US government implemented the whole terrorist threat act, NSA got to real power.. taxes were raised in order to fund the massive war on terror.. it resulted in an outrageous sum of money for the government and a war.. and you know what they say.. when the economy is failing, have a little war or two.. helps every time.
These kinds of false flag operations are nothing new in the history of war, even USA has done this before (Vietnam, Pearl Harbor).. Hitler came to power in exactly the same way as 911 was orchestrated.. First he set fire to the government building in Berlin (analog: 911 comes down), then he accused the damn freemasons and jewish conspirators of doing it (analog: US blames 'The Terrorists'), and then he rises to power resulting in the greatest massacre of human life in the history of mankind (analog: multi-billion dollar show 'The War On Terror' initiates, US invades Iraq etc.).. So. nothing new in this world..
#(removed comment) .. I agree with #18 on this, if the whole thing had come down because of the steel infrastructure buckling and deforming, it would not have fallen over so synchronously.. the plane(s) hit only one side of the building and definitely did not apply the same amount of explosive force (and extreme heat) to the whole are of the few floors. Surely you can not argue that the point of impact would have gotten the most of the 'extreme heat' and would have had to topple over first..
You are just so damn afraid to stop lying to yourself, open your eyes and forget about your nationality and patriotism for one moment and just start to question what the Mainstream Media is telling you.. you're not a dumb man, THINK ABOUT IT.
This 911 thing is hard to reach US people because most of them are just so naive and ignorant when it comes to their own country that they simply can not even fathom that their great country could do things like this.. And that is the only difference between USA and other superpowers of the last decades.. The communists used iron fists and curtains and Siberia to make people obey, USA uses patriotism, McDonalds, The American Dream and Mainstream Media...
These kinds of false flag operations are nothing new in the history of war, even USA has done this before (Vietnam, Pearl Harbor).. Hitler came to power in exactly the same way as 911 was orchestrated.. First he set fire to the government building in Berlin (analog: 911 comes down), then he accused the damn freemasons and jewish conspirators of doing it (analog: US blames 'The Terrorists'), and then he rises to power resulting in the greatest massacre of human life in the history of mankind (analog: multi-billion dollar show 'The War On Terror' initiates, US invades Iraq etc.).. So. nothing new in this world..
#(removed comment) .. I agree with #18 on this, if the whole thing had come down because of the steel infrastructure buckling and deforming, it would not have fallen over so synchronously.. the plane(s) hit only one side of the building and definitely did not apply the same amount of explosive force (and extreme heat) to the whole are of the few floors. Surely you can not argue that the point of impact would have gotten the most of the 'extreme heat' and would have had to topple over first..
You are just so damn afraid to stop lying to yourself, open your eyes and forget about your nationality and patriotism for one moment and just start to question what the Mainstream Media is telling you.. you're not a dumb man, THINK ABOUT IT.
This 911 thing is hard to reach US people because most of them are just so naive and ignorant when it comes to their own country that they simply can not even fathom that their great country could do things like this.. And that is the only difference between USA and other superpowers of the last decades.. The communists used iron fists and curtains and Siberia to make people obey, USA uses patriotism, McDonalds, The American Dream and Mainstream Media...
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35. poiu commented 15 years ago
#34
I registred right now, only to thumbs up you!
I registred right now, only to thumbs up you!
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37. banzemanga commented 15 years ago
#34 I am glad you accept the fact that the there was something behind the TWC "demolition" but going accusing all Americans as "ignorant" is a little too far. In fact, the video link i posted was made by some Americans. It is always best to criticize those who specifically were responsible, not the entire category.
#(removed comment) Again go learn about demolition or watch the video I posted in comment #23. The metallic frames were not only on the outward of the building. There were a bunch of them on the inside, and so many that it is the "core" of the structure.
#(removed comment) Again go learn about demolition or watch the video I posted in comment #23. The metallic frames were not only on the outward of the building. There were a bunch of them on the inside, and so many that it is the "core" of the structure.
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38. moskwiz commented 15 years ago
#36 Don't work in a bank, don't like McDonalds and I can't even remember how the CNN logo looks like anymore
#(removed comment) No the Japanese attacked Pearl Harbor.. However the incident was so to speak induced by US itself, using boycotts and other economical and political action to thoroughly piss Japan off. Finally Japan was fooled into thinking (granted, at that time Japan was pretty easy to fool into things.. they were unbelievably hell-bent on war) they could actually pull off a maritime offensive on the US so they set off from Japan. What makes all this weird, is that pretty much all the coastal nations that the Japanese Armada passed on their way to America, saw the Armada and sent out warning signals to the US which the US IGNORED?!??! Fact of the matter is USA needed to enter WWII and this incident would allow them to do just that without being the aggressors..
As for 911, sure it required a lot of planning out and working on the buildings, but since the security measures could have easily been bought off or even be in on it themselves, I don't see why that would significantly make any difference as to what actually happened. I also stand by what I said in my earlier post - to assume that both buildings caved in on themselves pretty much exactly in the same manner, without there actually being a concrete reason for them to do so, because planes crashed into them, conveniently imploding so that the surrounding buildings suffered minimal damage compared to what might have happened - to assume all this (and a ton of other things I'm not telling you to save time) is just naive.. Moreover, what about WTC7?!? What about NORAD?!?!? What about the Pentagon and the mysterious disappearance of all surveillance cameras at the time of the crash?!?!?!? Usually when something like this happens, at best there is few to no amateur civilian phone-camera footage of the scene.. On 911's case though, out of mere coincidence, there just happened to be half a dozen news helicopters in the air, reporter-crews running around all over the place, news studios built with the background view exactly on the scene of the crash etc.
The twin towers were in fact designed with exactly this scenario in the original blueprints - so that the buildings would not collapse in case of an airliner (or two) crashing into them - say the actual architects of the complex.
btw, whoever is running USA is not naive or ignorant, in fact their a bunch of masterminds.. I'm talking about the average citizen being so incredibly numbed-down on cheap entertainment that they wouldn't even care to question what they were told if a plane crashed into one of them big towers in NY... US citizens are superslaves.. they have been brought up in a way where they actually want to do and think what they are being ordered to.. Only difference between USSR or China is that the US citizens don't themselves know that they are being oppressed by their own government.. This is happening in Western Europe also btw
Edit: #37 Absolutely right, I apologize.. I tend to over-generalize things sometimes.. As there are stupid people in any country, so are there smart ones. Level of intelligence does not recognize nationalities
#(removed comment) No the Japanese attacked Pearl Harbor.. However the incident was so to speak induced by US itself, using boycotts and other economical and political action to thoroughly piss Japan off. Finally Japan was fooled into thinking (granted, at that time Japan was pretty easy to fool into things.. they were unbelievably hell-bent on war) they could actually pull off a maritime offensive on the US so they set off from Japan. What makes all this weird, is that pretty much all the coastal nations that the Japanese Armada passed on their way to America, saw the Armada and sent out warning signals to the US which the US IGNORED?!??! Fact of the matter is USA needed to enter WWII and this incident would allow them to do just that without being the aggressors..
As for 911, sure it required a lot of planning out and working on the buildings, but since the security measures could have easily been bought off or even be in on it themselves, I don't see why that would significantly make any difference as to what actually happened. I also stand by what I said in my earlier post - to assume that both buildings caved in on themselves pretty much exactly in the same manner, without there actually being a concrete reason for them to do so, because planes crashed into them, conveniently imploding so that the surrounding buildings suffered minimal damage compared to what might have happened - to assume all this (and a ton of other things I'm not telling you to save time) is just naive.. Moreover, what about WTC7?!? What about NORAD?!?!? What about the Pentagon and the mysterious disappearance of all surveillance cameras at the time of the crash?!?!?!? Usually when something like this happens, at best there is few to no amateur civilian phone-camera footage of the scene.. On 911's case though, out of mere coincidence, there just happened to be half a dozen news helicopters in the air, reporter-crews running around all over the place, news studios built with the background view exactly on the scene of the crash etc.
The twin towers were in fact designed with exactly this scenario in the original blueprints - so that the buildings would not collapse in case of an airliner (or two) crashing into them - say the actual architects of the complex.
btw, whoever is running USA is not naive or ignorant, in fact their a bunch of masterminds.. I'm talking about the average citizen being so incredibly numbed-down on cheap entertainment that they wouldn't even care to question what they were told if a plane crashed into one of them big towers in NY... US citizens are superslaves.. they have been brought up in a way where they actually want to do and think what they are being ordered to.. Only difference between USSR or China is that the US citizens don't themselves know that they are being oppressed by their own government.. This is happening in Western Europe also btw
Edit: #37 Absolutely right, I apologize.. I tend to over-generalize things sometimes.. As there are stupid people in any country, so are there smart ones. Level of intelligence does not recognize nationalities
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39. svabo666 commented 15 years ago
this whole arguing and talking stuff brings us back to this vid:
http://www.snotr.com/video/2927
http://www.snotr.com/video/2927
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40. moskwiz commented 15 years ago
#(removed comment) .. mate, seriously, please take the time and watch this group of videos: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yVieTN4BeHQ&feature=related
We're getting tired of repeating ourselves, also don't have as well prepared a lecture on the subject
please please please watch it kthxbai
Edit: Oh yeah, btw, if you're acquainted with the demolition business it seems even weirder that you should oppose and not agree with the basics of structural engineering and laws of controlled demolitions
We're getting tired of repeating ourselves, also don't have as well prepared a lecture on the subject
please please please watch it kthxbai
Edit: Oh yeah, btw, if you're acquainted with the demolition business it seems even weirder that you should oppose and not agree with the basics of structural engineering and laws of controlled demolitions
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42. banzemanga commented 15 years ago
#(removed comment) You know, how do you explain the the way the exact diagonal cuts of the steel columns on the site you posted. Buckling can never cause such kind of diagonal cut. Rather buckling would cause bending and torsion deformation not CUTS.
Even if the fuel was carried inside the building, the only frames that have been weakened are of that floor. Meaning that only from that floor above would have fallen down and the core frame bellow should have been more than enough to support what was left above.
Even if what was left was not enough to support the weight above, it would cause sheer resistance for the falling and knock only a few floors down and then the floors closes to the ground would still have great resistance against the free fall motion.
Sightz, just watch the video. A picture is worth a thousand words, the video is worth my entire explanation.
Even if the fuel was carried inside the building, the only frames that have been weakened are of that floor. Meaning that only from that floor above would have fallen down and the core frame bellow should have been more than enough to support what was left above.
Even if what was left was not enough to support the weight above, it would cause sheer resistance for the falling and knock only a few floors down and then the floors closes to the ground would still have great resistance against the free fall motion.
Sightz, just watch the video. A picture is worth a thousand words, the video is worth my entire explanation.
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43. banzemanga commented 15 years ago
#(removed comment) and #(removed comment) Sorry, i didn't read the documentary of the page. I just took a quick glance because I was at work. Even assuming that those pictures are done by firemen and workers doing clean up on the ground zero, doesn't justify the free fall motion on the TWC building collapse.
#(removed comment) I am not saying that U.S. government is behind the conspiracy of anything or whatsoever. I am just saying that there is no way that the building would have collapsed just from a mere fire. There have been cases of smaller buildings with less steel frame core being crashed by a plane and never in history have crumbled the way the TWC did.
And it is not that hundreds were killed and no one voiced out, it was just that those who voiced out were ignored by the ignorance of the majority. It is not just the video link i posted, you can find much more by university professors, architects and engineers; who explain that no way in the world, the physics behind it works the way as explained by the authorities.
#(removed comment) I am not saying that U.S. government is behind the conspiracy of anything or whatsoever. I am just saying that there is no way that the building would have collapsed just from a mere fire. There have been cases of smaller buildings with less steel frame core being crashed by a plane and never in history have crumbled the way the TWC did.
And it is not that hundreds were killed and no one voiced out, it was just that those who voiced out were ignored by the ignorance of the majority. It is not just the video link i posted, you can find much more by university professors, architects and engineers; who explain that no way in the world, the physics behind it works the way as explained by the authorities.
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44. moskwiz commented 15 years ago
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#(removed comment) As you can clearly see this secret has not stayed a secret for this long.. It has been talked about for many years already and it's becoming more and more obvious. Tens of thousands of people are actively investigating what really happened, these include many a professional engineer and architect.. You can't deny that this is not just a mere conspiracy theory anymore.. It's clear at this point, that there is a lot being shushed away and the real story had been covered up. If you vest enough time and get on-par with the info you just can't deny that.
Now forget you're an American for 2 hours and watch the 13 videos posted on youtube (something tells me you still haven't) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yVieTN4BeHQ&feature=related
#41 no it is not. I'm willing to bet that in a few years (if not ten, or twenty) we will all be set straight on this topic and it will change the way we look up on how the world works completely..
#(removed comment) As you can clearly see this secret has not stayed a secret for this long.. It has been talked about for many years already and it's becoming more and more obvious. Tens of thousands of people are actively investigating what really happened, these include many a professional engineer and architect.. You can't deny that this is not just a mere conspiracy theory anymore.. It's clear at this point, that there is a lot being shushed away and the real story had been covered up. If you vest enough time and get on-par with the info you just can't deny that.
Now forget you're an American for 2 hours and watch the 13 videos posted on youtube (something tells me you still haven't) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yVieTN4BeHQ&feature=related
#41 no it is not. I'm willing to bet that in a few years (if not ten, or twenty) we will all be set straight on this topic and it will change the way we look up on how the world works completely..
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46. MenelecJoe commented 15 years ago
i still remember the documentry, dramaitc computer science...no doubt about the facts, look at what the simulation says. Hot fire and steel, thick strong inner core steel. meh. ruined, turned to dust. no question about it look at this man he will agree.
well, its nice to hear the rhetoric.
if the day ever comes, where i find myself outside with an unusual amount of security personel, who might through one way or another, make the fact aware that they are acting in my best interest / doing their job /securing the area or fighting terrorism. (a speaker tower perhaps?)
Then i can imagine that those folks, who question the action and sincerity of events. They will be the ones who end up in emergency camps / held for questioning / re-located / no longer an issue - the last...or maybe they will be first?
cant wait for the next tower / explosion / colapse video to see this debate continue.
well, its nice to hear the rhetoric.
if the day ever comes, where i find myself outside with an unusual amount of security personel, who might through one way or another, make the fact aware that they are acting in my best interest / doing their job /securing the area or fighting terrorism. (a speaker tower perhaps?)
Then i can imagine that those folks, who question the action and sincerity of events. They will be the ones who end up in emergency camps / held for questioning / re-located / no longer an issue - the last...or maybe they will be first?
cant wait for the next tower / explosion / colapse video to see this debate continue.
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+6 1. NathaneM commented 15 years ago