Would You Intervene?

People are bystanders of a violence billboard! :(

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+35 1. filter commented 9 years ago

before anyone asks, the music is "intro" by the xx.
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+16 2. GhostInShell commented 9 years ago

very nice way to make a campaign about this.
i hate people who just passively watches and do nothing, do something! make a difference!
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+22 3. yahoo514 commented 9 years ago

Nice little reminder that when you travel out of the U.S. they have different emergency numbers. 1:46
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+15 4. JimDunlop commented 9 years ago

First of all, kudos for not only confronting people with this issue, but a BIG thumbs up for giving people 4 practical suggestions about what to do if they are in that situation.

However, I disagree that people don't react because they don't know how. This is a very old, and very well-known phenomenon that can be summed up in 2 words: Kitty Genovese.

The tragic story of a woman who was brutally murdered in NYC. This woman was being stabbed for almost a half-hour, with several dozen people nearby and no one reacted -- no one helped -- no one called the police.

It's called the bystander effect. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bystander_effect

So to answer the question: would you intervene? You might like to think that you would, but my money is on "I doubt it."
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+4 5. dannodon commented 9 years ago

Have one of those billboards at the police station -> problem solved.
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+7 6. Namron7 commented 9 years ago

Why can they call people 'inactive' and failing to intervene in a violent situation when there is obviously nothing there to intervene with..... :|
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-1 7. cranky commented 9 years ago

01:50 It's *take* photos. Not make photos.
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+3 8. kainim commented 9 years ago

everyone thinks they themselves can't make a difference, but if everyone goes in together, they will stop, problem is, if you do it on your own, you're likely to get the 2 groups against you

It's all psychology, unfortunately
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+3 9. Gringo_el_Diablo commented 9 years ago

#6 I was thinking the same thing....The bystanders are more confused if anything. Why the green screen? ...if you want to prove a point! ;)
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+2 10. baaphoofd commented 9 years ago

#6 and #9 assault on public service employees is a big problem in the Netherlands. The government has already tried literally hundreds of commercials etc. to stop the violence in the street.

When I say big problem, well, it's big for our standards (16 million inhabitants).
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+1 11. firest4rter commented 9 years ago

this is thought provoking. who here on snotr would intervine?
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+2 12. NielsTreurniet commented 9 years ago

This is in Holland,, a great presentation with a very big message.. ;)
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+3 13. eNdEmiOn06463 commented 9 years ago

If everyone didn't know the police as those bad guys who know only to write tickets and occasionally act overly violent against often innocent people, there maybe would be more people that actually want to contact the police for something, now its more like keep as far away from them as possible, so don't get involved in anything related to them.
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+2 14. tomas commented 9 years ago

Well, I get really pissed off watching these situations, I must admit in violent situations, when there is a fight I understand that untrained people (martial art-wise) dont intervene, as they will probably get hit.

In march this year an 18 year-old guy was beaten by another in the Madrid subway, everyone but two out-of-service policemen simply watched how the guy was beaten.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AY59rTyTd8w&skipcontrinter=1

Personally, I've intervened in violent situations, one of them regarding "Violence against women", about 15 friends of the assailant watched as he slapped his girlfriend.

I hate this passivity
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+3 15. ONE-NL commented 9 years ago

whow!
Great idea!
but still: you won't stop the people mollesting the public service employees...
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+1 16. dafil commented 9 years ago

#4

While Genovese's neighbors were vilified by the article, "Thirty-Eight onlookers who did nothing" is a misconception. The article begins:
"For more than half an hour thirty-eight respectable, law-abiding citizens in Queens watched a killer stalk and stab a woman in three separate attacks in Kew Gardens."

The lead is dramatic but factually inaccurate. None of the witnesses observed the attacks in their entirety. Because of the layout of the complex and the fact that the attacks took place in different locations, no witness saw the entire sequence of events. Most only heard portions of the incident without realizing its seriousness, a few saw only small portions of the initial assault, and no witnesses directly saw the final attack and rape in an exterior hallway which resulted in Genovese's death.[1] Additionally, after the initial attack punctured her lungs (leading to her eventual death from asphyxiation), it is unlikely that she was able to scream at any volume.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kitty_Genovese#Public_reaction
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+1 17. Esthreel commented 9 years ago

Brilliant!
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+2 18. JimDunlop commented 9 years ago

#16, that version of biased history is no more accurate than my version of biased history. Somewhere in the middle lies the truth.

Regardless, the bystander effect is quite real and even if the Genovese case were 100% fiction, it doesn't make inaction any less excusable. The "diffusion of responsibility" effect that we see in such cases can be very dangerous.

When you see someone else not reacting to something, that makes it acceptable for you not to react either. I'll call your Kitty Genovese and raise you a Stanley Milgram. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Milgram_experiment

That is a great study of "diffusion of responsibility" where test subjects are willing to hurt or even kill another person because they are told it's alright by an authority figure, and therefore it's no longer "their problem." As soon as we start believing that something is "not my problem," we risk behaving immorally.

http://greatergood.berkeley.edu/article/item/we_are_all_bystanders
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+2 19. huldu commented 9 years ago

You shouldnt get involved real life has no room for heroes. A few years back a man witnessed a bank robbery and started to pursue the robbers in a car chase. After a few minutes the robbers noticed this and started firing at the car. The man was not injured but his 8 year old son was killed by a bullet. I mean what kind of moron would put his own son at risk, for what?

As a person it is never safe to intervene because you do not know the threat. You do not know who you're getting involved with. Not everybody can be reasoned with and will even take up brutal force to stop you. Ask yourself is it really worth trying to be a real life hero when you know that the consequences can be fatal? Yeah, in real life you only get one try, when you're dead its over.
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-3 20. AmazingNixxo commented 9 years ago

My point! NEVER LEAVE your home without your trusty companion the Beretta 92 9mm. If you don't have the balls to intervene, the 9mm has.
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+2 21. archis commented 9 years ago

Tip: if you are in such bad situation with bystanders point out on some person for help (example ''you, man in blue jacket call 911''), this person will feel obligated to do something.
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-2 22. ALF commented 9 years ago

-Interspecies sign of overpopulation-
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+1 23. Mitak commented 9 years ago

It is a good idea. Most ppl will not do anything if they find themselves in such situation. But with this billboards maybe at least they will think twice when something happens, who knows maybe they will even help.


#7 was this the only thing that came to your mind after watching the clip? Feel free to correct my comment also.