Carl Sagan: A Universe Not Made For Us

Are we the custodians of life's meaning?

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+7 1. lockandload commented 14 years ago

when the clip first started i thought i was watching the american hit tv show LOST..the background music sounds very similar to it..nice vid bytheway, makes one sit and wonder..
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+8 2. gazh commented 14 years ago

very interesting, but I thought that we weren't gonna bring up the elephant in the :S
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+13 3. Oddi commented 14 years ago

If a god/creator exists or has ever existed, only science, eventually will lead us to him.
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-14 4. bartwoo commented 14 years ago

Religion is about faith. But logically thinking...
Which one do you need more "faith"?
- Believe that things were created;
- Or believe that things suddenly showed up?
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-13 5. NotFirst commented 14 years ago

Topic of origin:

God created=>
Requirement to believe: Faith
Reason: No one was there, was not observed.

Evolution created=>
Requirement to believe: Faith
Reason: No one was there, was not observed.

*just commenting on origin, nothing else
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-2 6. Syrup commented 14 years ago

quite interesting, however i can't agree with this. i'm sure i'll get low ratings for this, but i just can't believe someone telling me i have no purpose or hope in life, when i know i do.
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+9 7. Reaperdaddy commented 14 years ago

hehe this kind of video can bring some hot debates... Creation/Evolution... the eternal fight for the truth. I hope one day we will get a clear answer to that with hard proofs.
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-6 8. ui236 commented 14 years ago

Nice video.
I understand why people want to think like this.
But there is no evidence that we are not made for this universe.
Maybe we're not in the middle of the universe but that doesn't really matter in the case for made in this universe. The're has never been seen a planet where there's live. Intelligent live is surely not there. If there where. Why haven't they come to our planet. And you know I don't believe live can be created by natural proseses ,but only by a creator. Secondly what's with the garden of eden. That didn't gave us all knowledge just the perseption of what is wrong and wright. And it is easy to say that science has led us to be better. But we have just given a name to all our development and put that next to theorie that is basicaly wrong. That doesn't talk about communion but individualism. And if you think about it. To much self respect is the source of almost al evil. Because I want to get better, bigger, mightier, stronger, etc. I'm sorry but it is just hard to hear the truth
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+15 9. gendarme commented 14 years ago

"To one who has faith, no explanation is necessary. To one without faith, no explanation is possible."

--- Thomas Aquinas ---
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0 10. fugitivegoose commented 14 years ago

I'm with you there #6
That video made me feel useless and pathetic.
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+2 11. c2quad commented 14 years ago

I totally agree with Thomas Aquinas in #9....

I Can Make Yuh Feel That There Is Something That is More Powerful,more Greater Than anyone of us .... THE GOD ..
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+10 12. iShine commented 14 years ago

we are lost in a great darkness. yet we learnd to make ......light.
the wolrd is not yet ready to drop de burden that is all religion.
most of u still need it and that isnt a bad thing, but as a child learns to stand up str8t and will we..... in time.
i judge no one.
i be free.
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+8 13. blackd commented 14 years ago

"My response, is that when Creationists talk about God creating every individual species as a separate act, they always instance hummingbirds, or orchids, sunflowers and beautiful things. But I tend to think instead of a parasitic worm that is boring through the eye of a boy sitting on the bank of a river in West Africa, [a worm] that's going to make him blind. And [I ask them], 'Are you telling me that the God you believe in, who you also say is an all-merciful God, who cares for each one of us individually, are you saying that God created this worm that can live in no other way than in an innocent child's eyeball? Because that doesn't seem to me to coincide with a God who's full of mercy'."

~Sir David Attenborough
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+9 14. LightAng3l commented 14 years ago

I don't like religion because all of them are made in such a way, that you must blindly obey it. "Everything is yours, paradise is yours, just don't eat from the tree of knowledge" Translation : "Don't start thinking for yourself or you will go to hell"

They burned people for saying the earth was round, and that the sun is in the center of our solar system, and called them heretics, ... and what do you know? Those people where right!

FLAME ON ! >:)
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+7 15. halboug commented 14 years ago

well in the end, everyone is entitled to his opinion, why do you care if i believe there is no god or there are a 100 gods
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-5 16. Megaverse commented 14 years ago

#6 who cares if you get low ratings ...didn't you guess by now that the majority of people here are imbeciles who votes positive when you talk about vagina/penis? There are of the lowest expectation so whatever I always vote negative on their stupidity and always at least check the negative/hidden ones and so should everybody else that is sane here... Though I admit it's not worth the lost of time I know.

AND just to say Make your own purpose and don't give a damn about the others who try to say you have none. It’s your life after all, right? We (even the imbeciles) have to make our lives with a minimum of purpose whatever it is.
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+1 17. badboy007 commented 14 years ago

this video was always going to get long comments

guys please stop telling your life stories.
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-11 18. c2quad commented 14 years ago

Athiests dont Believe in God or religion cuz they dont want to have duties on their necks...But watz True thatz true ...THERE IS A GOD ...

And Before Someone Interepts me I Answer Their Questions Too
People Say How Do yuh know There is Such A Power That Exists And is Controlling us ....

my Ans: Think Yourself being in a hard situation eg:-
Drowning in middle of the sea where there is no one to save your Life ...And at that time You have a feeling in your Heart that there is someone Who can save you From Drowning ...
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+4 19. ninocka commented 14 years ago

#18: please go back to school and learn proper spelling
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+4 20. chuchesaku commented 14 years ago

#18 since when are feelings in one's heart life saving ? O:)
this is a typical situation when one can ask you 'where is your god now?' and you'll drown anyway :P

imagine we finally get the answer, and there is really a god. The first thing that I'm going to ask myself (and i think I'm not the only one) is who created him and why. 8-)
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+6 21. MrLogical commented 14 years ago

R.I.P. Carl Sagan

A brilliant mind taken away from us aged just 62.
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-6 22. c2quad commented 14 years ago

#19....spellings doesnt matters,wat matter is meanings...U Choose the Wrong part of my comment to Argue ...and #20 He Is The CREATOR ...He Creates...
HE is Beyond our imagination...

If you have True Faith(Which Athiests are not familiar with ) You will Survive....IN EVERY CONDITIONS *FAITH* *_*

1 fact that is Very True & Present in everyones Heart is that
There is Someone ...
But As I said in #18 People dont want to have responsibilities on their necks ....To Escape just They Wud Say NO !
As You Would Do it in the Below Comment ...
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+4 23. Oddi commented 14 years ago

I see many of you confuse religions with faith...religions just use some misleading faith to spread. This vid does not oppose faith..just som old 'facts' religions used to stand on
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+4 24. Highmeadow commented 14 years ago

#6 - no one said you have no purpose in life. It is unlikely, however, that you are some god's favourite little kitten, so maybe you should make your own purpose in life and do good with it. If religious institutions concentrated more on the fellowship and well being of ALL people and less about the glory of their own "faith", we would all make it back to the garden... O:)
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+1 25. joeman commented 14 years ago

Carl Sagan was an absolutely brilliant man, but sometimes we
educate our minds at the expense of our hearts...

Here's an example:
You're driving to a destination for the first time, and you're not a religious nut, or a psychic,
but on the way you 'feel in your gut' like you passed the turn.
With your mind screaming that you're crazy, you turn around and go back, only to find that you really did pass the turn.

How did you know to do that?
YOU did it.
You just did what you felt was the right thing to do.
It doesn't mean you're always going to be right.
It's like learning to ride a bike, you get better at it.

Your mind will never agree with this kind of thing, or act without 'proof'.
It will come up with all kinds of reasonings, because it always wants to see first, then believe.
kinda like Mr. Sagan...
but with some things, we believe first, then we see.
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0 26. blackd commented 14 years ago

I like c2quad (#18 #22) he is silly. :(|) :(|)
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0 27. c2quad commented 14 years ago

#26 You didnt got meh, Dumb...
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+1 28. demilune67 commented 14 years ago

To c2quad

I'm Atheist I have duty I'm doing good things not for a GOD
only to help people

People who believe in god are selfish, they do their duty only because they scare to be in hell after death.

Sorry for spellingssssss English is not my language
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0 29. c2quad commented 14 years ago

#28 I got what you said see deeds matter when you are in belive with something ...Athiests dont believe in GOD so they do good or bad things doesent matters..The Believers of GOD are not selfish because they do things which are right and every right thing has a reward ..the difference is that the unbelievers get their rewards in this life and the Believers get their rewards afterlife...

You need a livelihood(job) I cannot say that you are greedy thats why you are doing job for money ..
eg: If you have studied good you get a good job if you have studied less or yo are poor in studies you get poor job..
Like this works with us too We Do good things To make our Afterlife and prevent our selves from bad things for the same purpose ...THIS IS NOT SELFISHNESS, IF IT IS EVERY SINGLE PERSON IN THE WORLD IS INVOLVED IN IT !
But as I said in starting everything matters If you Believe ... And We Do !

and np with spellings ..same here
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-1 30. gcleffff commented 14 years ago

#16 why are you scared too? that you really dont have a purpose when you die you die thats it theres no second life or salvation etc. Religion completely blinded people of the real truth though they do have advantages, just think of it like the movie matrix, stay in the matrix with order or be free.

anyway lets just enjoy the life we have and make it worth while. :D
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0 31. CarcharotH commented 14 years ago

#29 how is it not selfish if you do good things to score high on some sort of personal chart?

sadly, the 'comforting fairytales' that mankind has come up with will forever be imprinted on us; religion will never be abolished.