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+47 1. amiknema commented 13 years ago

Great movie clip and sadly they can only scratch the surface of the palestinian everyday struggle to do anything ... or simply live :(
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-5 2. ICdevil commented 13 years ago

Try passing through their territory in jerusalem, and youll get shot and robbed!!,i know people who barely got out alive out of there... if they wouldnt be so offensive israel wouldnt be making those checkpoints...
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+26 3. imagic commented 13 years ago

sadly enough it is the reality in palestina :( i hope one day the people there will be able to live freely
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+20 4. gringo commented 13 years ago

Good movie, good point, but too sad that this is not enough to make some people understand whats really like to live every day like this...
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-1 5. paolo commented 13 years ago

this video is soo realystic and :(
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+4 6. badboy007 commented 13 years ago

Its like this in Palastain, Iraq, Afghanistan and everywhere else America decides.
Yes of course America supports Israel
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-16 7. mike_nazz commented 13 years ago

+1 if you pressed CTRL+ALT+SHIFT
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+7 8. AL-AIN commented 13 years ago

no way through
thats real so bad :(
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+10 9. PownMeister commented 13 years ago

good movie, its a real eye opener. It makes me realise that im lucky to be born in Norway where healthcare is taken for granted.
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+4 10. Taineract commented 13 years ago

Sad... but a pretty one-sided video.
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+8 11. whowhatme commented 13 years ago

#2 "if they wouldnt be so offensive israel wouldnt be making those checkpoints"

and if they hadn't stolen their land they wouldn't need the checkpoints .

A circular arguement has a start .............
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+1 12. Kendiana commented 13 years ago

There are other sites and forums to debate religion and politics. I, like many of you, come here to Snotr to escape front page horror stories. There are always two sides to every story. Go to the Op-Ed pages of your favorite newspaper and voice your opinion there. Thanks
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-4 13. dragonon commented 13 years ago

And how many of your pressed Ctrl + Alt+ Shift :x .... Lol ( wa... new smileys)
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-8 14. max2000 commented 13 years ago

not really: when u driving a VW Bora in London, u have a call number in ur cell that gets u to a Red cross point :) dat's Blue joke movie, should have chosen a Fiat or a Toyota, or an older Golf.
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+11 15. ace543 commented 13 years ago

i thought she was going to turn into a zombie :O .... i think i watch to many movies
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0 16. Diana86 commented 13 years ago

a slap of reallity to us... :(
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-2 17. boomla commented 13 years ago

Great movie with a great point. the ppl down there are dieng slowly becouse of israel ....
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0 18. Sebastien commented 13 years ago

This video is a lie. The point is not to prevent traffic casualties from getting medical attention, it's to prevent terrorists from bombing a civilized country.

Go ahead punks, make my day!
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+4 19. Vaithan commented 13 years ago

Absolutly agree #(removed comment) Very well said mate.
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+9 20. zf1 commented 13 years ago

:warning: regardless of your opinion, whether true or false, please keep all hate comments to yourself. any references that state "fuck 'X' country" or "fucking 'y' country" or "ethnic group 'Z' assholes", etc, are considered hate mongering. repeat violators may result in eventual ban. please choose your comments wisely.
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+2 21. Sebastien commented 13 years ago

What if London were bombed by terrorists? Oh, wait, THAT really happened!
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0 22. huldu commented 13 years ago

Yes, because we compare our capitalistic view of life on how others live theirs.

Through all mankind there has always been problems somewhere. What do you expect when you cramp together 7 billion people on a planet. You think its going to get any better in the future? Its getting worse... every day.
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+2 23. zf1 commented 13 years ago

:warning: GardX, Sebastien, huldu.... you downrated my comment???

you dont think im being serious? try me.
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-2 24. Sebastien commented 13 years ago

Is there anything wrong wit hsaying that several comments have been deleted? I have mentioned it in several posts which have in turn been deleted. If you look at some currently posted comments you'll find some pretty hateful comments, but they're still on. Are you taking sides? Is it only zf1 or all of snotr?
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+4 25. bk90ux commented 13 years ago

Oh well sucks to be them. I am not Jewish but I do profile..I do not hear many Jews in the terrorist business blowing up embassies and flying planes in tall buildings.
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+1 26. imagic commented 13 years ago

#25, give the palestinas fighter planes, tanks and good weapons and they can fight. now they have to do it like they do, that situation is created bij the israeli's. and who are the real victims ? the usual people who just want a normal life for them and their family, just like in the movie
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+1 27. LQoQK commented 13 years ago

I think no one should get the land. they need to live under a nuatral leader treating them equally which would never happen
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+5 28. zf1 commented 13 years ago

#24 we delete ALL comments that we may find offensive, etc. we take no side whatsoever, except when it is used in such a negative context. EVEN if we agree with the comment as a whole, if the comment states something that could be of that nature, it will be deleted. sorry

also, you cannot expect us to monitor snotr 24/7 every single second of the day. we do not get paid for what we do. we have lives and jobs as well. inevitably, there ARE going to be times when a comment will remain until it is picked up by one of us. there is absolutely no guarantee whatsoever that any comment will be detected, however, we do have the tools that allow us to find comments like this effectively.

if you find comments that you find offensive and we didnt remove them after 3 days or so, please email webmaster@snotr.com describing your issue, the page it was posted on, the comment number and we will look into it. chances are, if you genuinely find something offensive, you will be able to give a reasonable explanation as to why, in which case we will remove it for you :snowman:
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-2 29. Sebastien commented 13 years ago

#28 zf1, do you keep deleted comments somewhere? If you do I'd really like you to look back at the few of mine you deleted and tell me why you did.
Please don't tell me you don't have time, i know you have a life, i'm just asking if you do have time because i feel some of these deletions where uncalled for. At any rate i'd like to know if you stand by your decision.
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+2 30. zf1 commented 13 years ago

#29 most likely the comment contained a term generally used to describe a general group of people and you used in in a condescending manner or along side insulting words.

if you make comments like this they will be removed. even if i agree with them.

there are other examples of comments that get removed, ie, perverted comments, comments not suitable for minors, racist comments, spam, duplicates, etc. if you made comments like that it is likely that someone or myself removed them.
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-2 31. Sebastien commented 13 years ago

#30 "likely" or "did"? I'm sorry to insist as I know this is turning into nitpicking, but have I really used any such language?
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+3 32. zf1 commented 13 years ago

#31 i just previewed the latest removed comments that i removed from this page. although i cannot see who posted them myself, i can tell you that the two comments were removed for the following reason:

*a religious group or term used to describe a religious group or person was used in context that was condescending, insulting or was worded in a way that would be considered insulting by that particular group of people or person.

note: i am not religious myself nor did i remove that comment for any political or religious agenda. the comment was removed because of the above reason and the above reason only.

if you dont like it then dont use comments like that, simple.

any more questions?
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-2 33. Sebastien commented 13 years ago

#32 not a question but a request: please ask to check the comments by name and see if mine were removed for those reasons or others.
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+3 34. zf1 commented 13 years ago

#33 whats the point?

you obviously know what comment was removed. you can re-post your comment here (minus anything offensive) then i will find out what comment you posted. i will quote the nature of the offensive comment in a warning which will appear on page the next time you log in, happy?

from now on, i will no longer just remove comments from you. any comment i remove from you will include a warning expaining the nature of the comment. this is a step further than just having comments removed but obviously you dont get it.

please keep in mind that having excessive warnings may eventually lead to ban.
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+4 35. kutsuke commented 13 years ago

There are two people who are literally identical in every way, but one is a terrorist and one is a civilian. You have no way of telling. Which one do you let enter the hospital?

The answer is, you create a way to tell the difference.

You may not like the way things are, but feelings be damned because it is the only thing humans have that comes close to working. If for any reason you can develop a system that's obviously better without breaking limits of acceptability, then by all means share it with the whole world and put an end to this madness. Otherwise, you're worthless when it comes to it.
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+1 36. zf1 commented 13 years ago

#33 also, please do post that comment. i am curious to see which one it is myself. we will not count that as a warning so dont worry ;)
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-1 37. Sebastien commented 13 years ago

#34 "you obviously know what comment was removed." That's where you're wrong: I had no idea my comments would be deleted and even after the first one I didn't bother to save my text. That won't happen again.

But I remember the gist of one that was removed and you will definitely be able to match it. Here goes...

The video itself is hate speech to me. It is building a straw man from an obviously absurd situation. And then we are supposed to transpose the situation, ridiculous and meaningless as it is as presented, to another region (there are sublte insidious clues from the start) and ssay "yes that is unjustifiable", forgetting everything we know about said region. That's why that video is dishonest at its core.
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+2 38. zf1 commented 13 years ago

????? are you quoting from this video because none of the removed comments from here matched anything close to that.

i have an idea..... these are quotes from the two comments in question... the rest are not even remotely close.

are any of these from you?

"The whole situation is tragic, but if the hostile countries around them would leave well enough alone, the palestinian and israely people might stand a 10x better chance of getting back on good terms with eachother."


OR..........

"As it is, driving from Arizona to Disneyland, I pass through no less than 3 checkpoints on the highway each direction."
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-1 39. Sebastien commented 13 years ago

#38 Neither! not even remotely.
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+3 40. zf1 commented 13 years ago

#39 well than you obviously didnt get a comment removed from here.

i can only see up to a certain point and did not see anything close to that. there is only a small handfull of comments that were removed in reference to that and those two are it. the other ones are too short and are not even close.

even if you did genuinely have a comment that somewhere else that you felt didnt violate any of the mentioned terms there is nothing i can do about comments that have been removed by other mods.

furthermore, i still think its suspicious. the fact that you down rated my warning about hate mongering/ making condescending remarks against groups of people suggests that you disagreed with what i said.
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+2 41. Sebastien commented 13 years ago

I disagree with the message of this video. I find it offensive. I think it promotes dangerous misconceptions, and appeals to emotions to hide the fact that it is intellectually void and simply dishonest.
The story of the video is: "see how inhumane these soldiers are? They would refuse to let a young woman, who has done nothing wrong, get to a hospital. They would deny her passage for no reason whatsoever. Well maybe they want her to die, even though they know perfectly well that she has done nothing wrong. You know that, I know that, she has done nothing wrong and they would let her die". And the message after that: "this is exactly what's going and in Palestine." Maybe we're simply missing the first part of the movie where the girl's brother or sister blows up a restaurant, and there's a lot of fake blood there as well. But we know there is no first part to this movie because it is one-sided and dishonest.
Before anyone tries to write a supposed prequel, please let's drop the analogy. We all know the situation is complex and goes back a long way, and that is why I can say that this video is an over simplification, and a one-sided lie.
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+7 42. zf1 commented 13 years ago

#41 now see, that is a completely valid opinion and doesnt say anything that could be considered offensive. happy now?
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+1 43. jojotin commented 13 years ago

+1 i got dark red vw bora aswell :D
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+1 44. Baboon commented 13 years ago

Freedom for Palestin
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0 45. sux2bu commented 13 years ago

Here is the best answer I have seen to offset the irrational hate speech about Israel. Leave them alone and they will not bother you; threaten them and you will pay the price.
Question: Why did the Jordanians kick the "Palistanians" out of Jordan and why don't any other Arab countries give them sanctuary?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UY3QpWvYzLw
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+4 46. AmazingNixxo commented 13 years ago

Nooooooooooooooooooo way through!!!! YEEEEESssssssss propaganda crap bs. Sure it has happend more then once, but it is not on going on a regular basis.