Don't interrupt grandpa's chat...
...bad things could happen
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2. MajorIdea commented 12 years ago
I see no reason to smile nor laugh...
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3. sfry513 commented 12 years ago
this just shows if more people had there permit to carry a concealed weapon there would be less crime, your less likely to rob someone if you know they also have a gun
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5. loadrunner commented 12 years ago
I would give Grandpa a liftime free internet, and coffee.
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6. Uld commented 12 years ago
Gandpa is lucky he has not made the robbers kill everyone. His move is very dangerous, any robbers could have riposted with gun or automatic weapon resulting in a bloodshed.
I totally disagree with #3, you just can't ripost to threat with threat, escalation of violence is never a good thing.
I totally disagree with #3, you just can't ripost to threat with threat, escalation of violence is never a good thing.
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8. Zebulun commented 12 years ago
I'm sure I'll get voted down in this heavy European comment forum however, this is exactly the reason why law abiding citizens in the US carry guns. To protect themselves (and others) from those that would do evil to them.
Unfortunately, many of you have grown up in a society where propaganda from your govt. and private groups are telling you otherwise.
Unfortunately, many of you have grown up in a society where propaganda from your govt. and private groups are telling you otherwise.
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9. sux2bu commented 12 years ago
Most of you sheeple consider the US to be the most violent society in the world,yet the UK stands out, by their own comparisons, to be more violent than even South Africa! You are five times more likely to be attacked, harmed and robbed in the UK than in the US.
The U.S. has a violence rate of 466 crimes per 100,000 residents, Canada 935, South Africa 1,609, but the UK is at 1,158,957 per 100,000 residents.Surprised? This grandpa did the right thing. Giving thumbs down just shows your ignorance.You know who you are.
Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1196941/The-violent-country-Europe-Britain-worse-South-Africa-U-S.html#ixzz21aV8RipU
Crazy people will find a way to kill others if they have their mind set on it,just look at the slaughter last year on that little island in Norway...
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-14259356
The U.S. has a violence rate of 466 crimes per 100,000 residents, Canada 935, South Africa 1,609, but the UK is at 1,158,957 per 100,000 residents.Surprised? This grandpa did the right thing. Giving thumbs down just shows your ignorance.You know who you are.
Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1196941/The-violent-country-Europe-Britain-worse-South-Africa-U-S.html#ixzz21aV8RipU
Crazy people will find a way to kill others if they have their mind set on it,just look at the slaughter last year on that little island in Norway...
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-14259356
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13. huldu commented 12 years ago
Kinda defeats the purpose of even having a police don't you think?
Honestly I don't care either way, people will carry a gun regardless of if it's allowed or not. However the difference is a random guy using a weapon compared to someone trained in doing it. That grandpa could easily have killed someone innocent that got in the line of fire. How about lets step it up a notch, imagine a little kid that got in the way of the bullet. How would that make you feel?
Honestly I don't care either way, people will carry a gun regardless of if it's allowed or not. However the difference is a random guy using a weapon compared to someone trained in doing it. That grandpa could easily have killed someone innocent that got in the line of fire. How about lets step it up a notch, imagine a little kid that got in the way of the bullet. How would that make you feel?
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14. librabooks commented 12 years ago
sux2bu - Where the f--k do you get your information from??? If your stats were even REMOTELY close, Canada, with a population of nearly 35 million, would have a violence rate 327,250 in one year!!! Unless this stuff is hidden from our reporters, your claim is utterly ridiculous! I think what gives you away is your "data" regarding the UK - 1,158,957 per 100,000!!?? I guess you must be including the over 1 million imaginary people. You are either drunk, high or retarded (mostly likely all 3).
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15. fixento2 commented 12 years ago
6. Grandpa was very deliberate with his aim and restrained. Where would you hide if the punks had started shooting at the clerk and customers? The problem was that he was shooting a 380 or 9, not a lot of stopping power.
13. Police arrive after the fact and in most cases don't solve these types of robberies. You see it all the time in the news a clerk or cusotmer shot by some drug craving punk
14. Look at the link and it will answer your question. He made a mistake it was 2000 plus per 100,000 the highest of the countries listed.
13. Police arrive after the fact and in most cases don't solve these types of robberies. You see it all the time in the news a clerk or cusotmer shot by some drug craving punk
14. Look at the link and it will answer your question. He made a mistake it was 2000 plus per 100,000 the highest of the countries listed.
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17. fixento2 commented 12 years ago
16. Now how does more crimes reported due to less people dying make sense? If your into stats then - According to the CDC in 2006, Last up to date numbers, 30,896 total gun deaths, of which, 642 accidental, 16,883 were Suicide, 12,791 were Homicide, 220 were Undetermined and 360 by Legal intervention. Remember that in the same year, 43,664 were killed in Motor vehicle accidents, 37,286 died from poisoning, 20,823 died from unintention falls. In 2005 CDC reported 652,091 people died from heart disease, 559,312 from cancer and 143,579 from stroke.
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19. nemmie commented 12 years ago
sux2bu, what is the definition of a "violent" crime? Can you be sure that the definition is the same everywhere? Doubt it.. Can you be sure that all crimes are reported? Doubt it..
Now if we look at something that we CLEARLY can measure, gun related homicides, US is of the charts compared to all civilized countries. (http://ije.oxfordjournals.org/content/27/2/214.full.pdf)
Same thing goes if we compare intentional homicide rate.
Strange isn't it?
Now if we look at something that we CLEARLY can measure, gun related homicides, US is of the charts compared to all civilized countries. (http://ije.oxfordjournals.org/content/27/2/214.full.pdf)
Same thing goes if we compare intentional homicide rate.
Strange isn't it?
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20. huldu commented 12 years ago
#15 Vigilante justice is not highly regarded. To me he looked like he was just randomly firing bullets without any consideration to nearby, innocent, people. Worst part for me was, did he even hit? Where did all those stray bullets go? You're aware that a bullet will actually travel quite a bit until *something* stops it. Let's just be glad it wasn't any innocent child.
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21. archis commented 12 years ago
From my point of view if someone robbes your store with a gun the most racional choise is to give what he wants and report him. It is not worth to make a gun fight and show your bravery (altough in same way admire those fighting back sellers) because your life is at stake, it isnt worth the loss.
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23. chadica commented 12 years ago
I would love to be able to tell some adult who never happened to know "Hey, did you know that everyone in America can carry a gun around with them, and that some banks give them away with bank accounts". I have become convinced that the UK only conceived the USA for everyone else’s entertainment (Arnie is a governor, they elected Bush, Sheriff John Bunnell, the sheer weight of em&rsquo. At least a cop didn’t show up they kill more people than those IN-SUR-GENCE people that keep invading the USA! USA! http://rt.com/usa/news/anaheim-police-shoot-another-833/ but they gotta do 2:100,000 better to beat Mexico in gun deaths http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_firearm-related_death_rate
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26. Granko commented 12 years ago
#25: Mafu, no disrespect (well, ok, just a little bit) but I'll never stop wondering how even more stupid people can be (now I refer to your last sentence). Criminals don't respect the law so they will ALWAYS have an advandage against law-obeying citizens, in this case they will have a gun. And you'll get shot because your law does not allow you to have one. In my country it's not easy to get a gun legally, it's even harder to be allowed to carry it around loaded. However, I woudn't want to live in a country which does not trust its citizens by prohibiting the guns for general (trained and examined) public. I don't fear good people harming me with guns, I fear those bad ones who can stab you with newspapers because they learned that in jail where I (hopefully) will never get. Wake up, the judgement day (once our "system" collapses finally) is comming, the sooner you get a cottage in high mountains, sufficient food supplies and 2 machineguns on porch, the longer you'll live
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27. ValdeLevis commented 12 years ago
#25 You are mistaken, two people got hurt, but nobody got a bullet that they didn't deserve.
http://current.com/community/93843421_surveillance-elderly-man-shoots-robbers-at-internet-cafe-in-florida.htm
http://current.com/community/93843421_surveillance-elderly-man-shoots-robbers-at-internet-cafe-in-florida.htm
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28. Chett commented 12 years ago
I'm baffled by the lack of logical reasoning evident in some of these comments If there's one thing those Americans have right it's their second amendment. Let's play the scenario out as if there were no right to bear arms:
Nobody in the building would be carrying a firearm because firearms are reserved for people of authority (police, army...etc). Then Beavis and Butthead arrive on the scene with guns that were presumably acquired illegally. The upstanding citizens are immediately at a disadvantage. We would hope that the thieves would just take whatever money they can get and leave, but when two dimwits with guns show up looking for free shit it puts everybody at risk.
Thankfully, Grandpa holds tight to his traditional American beliefs and brought his gun to the "interweb store". When the two lads made it clear what they were up to, Grandpa had no problem firing a few shots and scaring the criminals shitless.
#6 Grandpa made the right move in my opinion and I'm sure he knew exactly what he was doing. He saw the two lads come in with guns and no balls to match and sent them out with soiled pants. And watching the video again, I think he sized them up perfectly, they act like they've never heard a gun fire before. I say well done to the old timer, I'd buy him a pint!
Nobody in the building would be carrying a firearm because firearms are reserved for people of authority (police, army...etc). Then Beavis and Butthead arrive on the scene with guns that were presumably acquired illegally. The upstanding citizens are immediately at a disadvantage. We would hope that the thieves would just take whatever money they can get and leave, but when two dimwits with guns show up looking for free shit it puts everybody at risk.
Thankfully, Grandpa holds tight to his traditional American beliefs and brought his gun to the "interweb store". When the two lads made it clear what they were up to, Grandpa had no problem firing a few shots and scaring the criminals shitless.
#6 Grandpa made the right move in my opinion and I'm sure he knew exactly what he was doing. He saw the two lads come in with guns and no balls to match and sent them out with soiled pants. And watching the video again, I think he sized them up perfectly, they act like they've never heard a gun fire before. I say well done to the old timer, I'd buy him a pint!
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29. ValdeLevis commented 12 years ago
Thank you #28, you obviously get it. Like you, I'd buy him a pint, but I'd rather give him a Glock 23.
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30. kovacevic023 commented 12 years ago
aaaaaaaaaa usro ih super deka DDD
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31. chadica commented 12 years ago
#28 Yea "Chett" I'm with you - I also wish all the Irish had the right to bear arms, then maybe they would kill them selves at the same rate as the yanks. "I'm sure he knew exactly what he was doing" ...what with all that firearms training that they make the yanks take before they get a M16 assult rifle.
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32. Chett commented 12 years ago
#31 Sorry "chadica", I should have elaborated on that statement for the sake of the simpletons. I made no mention of any firearms training. Grandpa acted with a level head and, as stated in an earlier comment, used his weapon not to kill, but to get the nitwits out of the building.
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34. snotraddict commented 12 years ago
#6, folks on planes prior to 9/11 were told the same thing, don't escalate just do what the thug hijackers tell you to do, look what happened. There is a time and a place for escalation.
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35. sux2bu commented 12 years ago
#7 An acorn is a type of nut,right?
#14 I got that info from compiled studies released by the European Commission and United Nations,didn't your lame ass even click on the link? It is from a British news site.You really are clueless. Here is another from wiki that shows YOUR figure of 320,000+ per year to be just shy of reality .
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:CanadaViolentCrime.gif
Just google "UK violent crime" or "Canada violent crime" and you will start to see a pattern of similar numbers.
#19 What is defined as "violent crime"? This should clear up your doubts:
Canada:
Canada classifies homicides, attempted murder, all assaults, all sexual offences, abduction and robbery as violent crime.
New Zealand:
New Zealand's crime statistics has a category for violence that includes homicides, kidnapping, abduction, robbery, assaults, intimidation, threats, and group assembly, while all sexual offences are shown in a separate category from violence.
United Kingdom:
Violent crime statistics in the UK includes all violence against the person, sexual offences, and robbery as violent crime.
#14 I got that info from compiled studies released by the European Commission and United Nations,didn't your lame ass even click on the link? It is from a British news site.You really are clueless. Here is another from wiki that shows YOUR figure of 320,000+ per year to be just shy of reality .
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:CanadaViolentCrime.gif
Just google "UK violent crime" or "Canada violent crime" and you will start to see a pattern of similar numbers.
#19 What is defined as "violent crime"? This should clear up your doubts:
Canada:
Canada classifies homicides, attempted murder, all assaults, all sexual offences, abduction and robbery as violent crime.
New Zealand:
New Zealand's crime statistics has a category for violence that includes homicides, kidnapping, abduction, robbery, assaults, intimidation, threats, and group assembly, while all sexual offences are shown in a separate category from violence.
United Kingdom:
Violent crime statistics in the UK includes all violence against the person, sexual offences, and robbery as violent crime.
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37. draxenn commented 12 years ago
#6 - who's to say that they would not have shot anyone? We don't know exactly what they were after. Maybe money, maybe something else. The article linked says that they destroyed a $1200 monitor. What would that get them?
The citizen did the right thing and operated within the confines of his areas law. I see nothing wrong with his reaction.
The citizen did the right thing and operated within the confines of his areas law. I see nothing wrong with his reaction.
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39. Mafu commented 12 years ago
#25 I could not agree more with you - that's why I meant guns in general, not only normal citizens without guns, but also criminals. I referred to "people" in general. If guns were not available to the public, but only to army and police and other "authoritarian institutions", then less people would get hurt by guns.
I am not saying to take guns away from the general public whereas "criminals" can still get guns.
Of course, some people practice shooting at the range, so it is hard to prohibit guns to the public. I live in a very safe country, where in the last years school shootings sadly have become "popular" .It is soo easy for the children to get the gun of their father and start shooting around. This option should not be available - with no gun available, nobody can go around and shoot people!
I am not saying to take guns away from the general public whereas "criminals" can still get guns.
Of course, some people practice shooting at the range, so it is hard to prohibit guns to the public. I live in a very safe country, where in the last years school shootings sadly have become "popular" .It is soo easy for the children to get the gun of their father and start shooting around. This option should not be available - with no gun available, nobody can go around and shoot people!
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40. djac13 commented 12 years ago
Some people thinking with their Ass. If there is no weapons for public use, what the hell you thinking, that murders and criminal people not gonna have it weapons???? common don't be stupid!
This is the way to get shoot from some epick fucker and you can't do a shit! Lolz that not gonna happens never, Mafu or whatever u call it there.....
I say Good Job Granpa, and from video is see perfect how from 2 meters he shooting and if he wanted to kill he was gonna kill that fucker right away there....If I stand in that positions i will shoot the bustards 100%
This is the way to get shoot from some epick fucker and you can't do a shit! Lolz that not gonna happens never, Mafu or whatever u call it there.....
I say Good Job Granpa, and from video is see perfect how from 2 meters he shooting and if he wanted to kill he was gonna kill that fucker right away there....If I stand in that positions i will shoot the bustards 100%
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41. sunnydaze4me commented 12 years ago
If more citizens took the initiative and armed themselves, these types of thugs would not be so apt to try robberies like this one. Those punks might have decided to just shoot everyone so there would be no witnesses,who knows? That asshole that shot all those people in the movie in Colorado knew the theater was a gun-free place,so he had no fear of retaliation by the movie-goers.
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42. equilibrium2x commented 12 years ago
#28 they acquire guns *illegally* because there are a lot of guns that are available *legally*, plenty for some of them to get lost. if only the police is allowed to carry them then they are few and easily traced. and trust me, police persons come under heavy penalty for mishandling their weapons. maybe not in the us.
on a lighter note: a mugger with a knife would've had a greatly reduced chance of killing both of bruce wayne's parents on that unfaithful night. so maybe we should thank guns for batman?
on a lighter note: a mugger with a knife would've had a greatly reduced chance of killing both of bruce wayne's parents on that unfaithful night. so maybe we should thank guns for batman?
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43. Pizzaface1951 commented 11 years ago
@sux2bu
source of information - - - daily mail.
You might as well eat some alphabet soup and crap some statistics out.
It would likely be more acurate.
Have you looked at any other articles on there? lol
source of information - - - daily mail.
You might as well eat some alphabet soup and crap some statistics out.
It would likely be more acurate.
Have you looked at any other articles on there? lol
+36 1. Archangel06 commented 12 years ago